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Re: Common operational misconceptions
From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:14:00 -0600
On 2/17/2012 1:05 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
On Feb 17, 2012, at 07:50, Paul Graydon wrote:
what OSI means
Yet another common misconception popping up:
-- You can talk about the OSI model in the present tense
(That said -- yes, it is still useful as a set of simple terms for certain combinations of functions.
It is also still useful as a way to calibrate your gut feeling of what is going on in a network.
Just never expect OSI terms to have a precise meaning in today's networks.
1978 is now a third of a century ago...
If you need precision, you need to spell out what you mean in today's terms.)
Actually, I find it makes a perfect troubleshooting guideline in today's
world; at least up to layer 4. I'm not saying it's a perfect match to
troubleshooting a variety of MPLS problems, but it is a reminder that
there are dependencies which must be checked.
In dealing with transport companies, the model is still a good
representation of their service levels. It isn't uncommon to find their
products defined as layer 2 services (ranging from tdm/sonet services to
ethernet switching services), layer 3 services (often handled by their
ISP department), and MPLS services (which can range from p2p transport
Which brings up my final point. Until we quit naming things l2vpn or
l3vpn, OSI still applies. :P