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Re: Open Resolver Problems
From: Joe Abley <jabley () hopcount ca>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 18:41:17 -0400

On 2013-04-02, at 18:18, John Kristoff <jtk () cymru com> wrote:

I would expect from stubs this will be close enough to zero to be
effectively zero.  At least I would hope so.

This (below) is one of four resolvers, together providing service for two recursive DNS servers used by residential DSL 
and cable internet users at a medium-sized ISP in Canada. These resolvers are running unbound, which will never choose 
a source port of 53 on an outbound query; hence anything we see here with src port = dst port = 53 is one of those 
effective zeros.

[dns1-p1:~]% sudo tcpdump -i em0 -n -c 10000 -w sample.pcap udp port 53   
tcpdump: listening on em0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
10000 packets captured
10267 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
[dns1-p1:~]% tcpdump -r sample.pcap -q udp src port 53 and udp dst port 53 | wc -l
reading from file sample.pcap, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet)

26/1000 is more than zero but still quite small. Subsequent samples with bigger sizes give 332/100000, 3017/1000000.

No science here, but 2% - 3% is what it looks like, which is big enough to be a noticeable support cost for a 
medium-scale provider if the customer damage is not robo-mediated in some way (e.g. whitelist known offenders to avoid 
the support phone glowing red when you first turn it on).


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