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Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:10:58 +0000


I think the 20k hammer is probably a result of the contract vehicle. Firm fixed tend to have trouble with change orders 
so they bury costs within the project. The real cheap stuff comes from the indefinite quantity type of contracts, where 
they are buying consumables regularly at a discounted rate (and change orders are non issues). I used to wonder why the 
air force would run close to full burner on a training departure towards to the end of the month. I was told by someone 
who had an understanding of these things if you didn't use your fuel in a given month it impacted the next months 
delivery. It was necessary waste to ensure regular fuel quantities. The government entity was buying fuel on an 
indefinite basis, and the contract made the fuel cheaper as they were burning more. It's a total shit show in 
government contracting, which is I'm surprised they consider this system to be so wildly successful. If it was some 
anti jihad box, why did it not detect the Boston guys (who were not US citizens and likely would have been subject to 
monitoring by the anti jihad box)?

Sent from my Mobile Device.

-------- Original message --------
From: Andy Ringsmuth <andy () newslink com>
Date: 06/07/2013 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mark Seiden <mis () seiden com> wrote:

and also, only $20m/year?  in my experience, the govt cannot do anything like this
addressing even a single provider for that little money.

agreed, that 20m seems extraordinarily low for such an effort... hell,
for 6 yrs time transport costs along would have exceeded that number.

Obligatory Independence Day quote:

President Thomas Whitmore: I don't understand, where does all this come from? How do you get funding for something like 

Julius Levinson: You don't actually think they spend $20,000 on a hammer, $30,000 on a toilet seat, do you?

Andy Ringsmuth
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