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RE: article 2
From: "Bill Royds" <broyds () home com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:41:53 -0400

""without Right" is legal jargon to mean without a pre-existing arrangement, either ownership, licenses, or invitation 
(including advertising). 
Now the problem is to decide whether a right had been granted. But a denial (standard disclaimer on MOTD or logon) 
removes right.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E. Leever [mailto:bel1 () osi com]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 18:31
To: nmap-hackers () insecure org
Subject: article 2

I'd sure like to know what they mean when they
say in article 2: 
"...when committed intentionally (6) the access to
the whole or any part of a computer system without right."

by the word "right".

No where in the document do the clearly describe what they
mean by "without right".  If I ping another system on the net
have I accessed it?  yes.  Was it "without right"?  If you 
don't want your systems pinged, then I guess you could decide
it was "without right".   What if i fat fingered the ip address
& pinged the wrong system?  If you follow the reference (6) it
covers just about everything, including fat fingers.

one other "question".  Who elected these people anyway?


ps.   I think I just might be able to slip by article 10 
as I understand that you may copy small portions of copyrighted
material.... (c:

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