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Re: Socat
From: MadHat <madhat () unspecific com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:22:16 -0500

On Jun 16, 2005, at 6:06 AM, Andreas Ericsson wrote:
Max wrote:
A Windows version of this sort of tool is *mandatory* since it is  
used as a backdoor/tunnel on a vulnerable machine. And what OS is  
vulnerable than any other ? Hence this mandatory requirement :-)

Bah! The kids that needs a netcat-like program to backdoor a system
aren't really worthy of owning it in the first place. Spending quality
coding time so that juvenile idiots (the kind that have a hard time
grasping the meaning of the switch() statement) have a means of  
doing something non-constructive and possibly illegal is not my  
idea of fun.

That is like saying I won't make a hammer because it might be used to  
bash someone's head in.  It's just a tool.
Also, note the smiley at the end of his statement, usually used to  
denote a bit of fun or sometimes sarcasm.

Yes, there are other implementations os netcat out there.  I think  
Fyodor's idea is to possibly expand nmap to be a set of tools,  
instead of just one tool.  So instead of installed 3 or 4 packages to  
do all your scanning and testing, you install one.  Maybe similar  
interfaces (CLI options) and all the same quality.

Remember this is also for the Summer of Code. This may not bee added,  
may not be maintained after the end of the summer and may not even be  
finished.  I think it sounds interesting none the less.

M () x

Martin Maèok wrote:

On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:36:32AM -0700, Fyodor wrote:

Netcat has been totally unmaintained for about a decade, and I  
Nmap users would benefit from a tool similar to hping2 that is more
oriented toward their needs.

I'm still happy with hping2 (ok, lets forget about the patches we  
to apply to it ;-) *except* its poor ICMP support (sing is better  

Anyway, your proposal for Netcat enhancement almost exactly fits
Socat. Have you heard of it? Wonderful tool (and GPL) ...


Martin Maèok
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