Nmap Development: Re: #nmap IRC channel

[doug () hcsw org]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 06:02:28PM -0700 or thereabouts, Fyodor wrote:
> You don't have to register a nick on Freenode either, though I guess
> there are some serious restrictions if you don't.  For example, it
> wouldn't let me join the #fedora channel unless I registered.
Good point, though as you say there are restrictions:
  * Can't PM +R channels
  * Can't PM (non-ircop) users at all
  * Can't NOTICE users at all

> irc.freenode.com does have ipv6 servers.  At least according to their
> FAQ, you simply connect to irc.ipv6.freenode.net.  They don't seem to
> offer SSL currently.
Nice didn't know that.

> I used stats p while I was on Freenet.  It seemed to work, though no
> staff were online :|.
Sorry, my mistake I meant "stats u" as used by ircServerInfo.nse:

EFnet:
  irc.he.net has been up for 213 days, 22:03:56
  -:- [Highest client connection count(2710) (2708)]

Freenode:
  This command is for network staff only

I think they've "secured" a few other stats cmds too.

> o If some script kiddie takes over the channel we can easily get it
>   back since we will have the chansrv set to trust the registered nicks
>   of core Nmap developers.  If that happens on EFNet, I guess we just
>   have to mail nmap-hackers and ask everyone to help ddos the
>   perpetrator at a certain time?? :).
bwhahahahhah that's going in my quotes file. You sure you're not an
efnet user? ;)

There's that or CHANFIX: http://www.efnet.org/chanfix/
Takeovers are a lot harder nowadays because of timestamp fixes and
CHANFIX. Still possible, but usually a few eggdrops with +superbitch
is enough to hold a chan.

> o On Freenode we can give out Nmap cloaks which hide people's IP
>   address.  So instead of saying kris () adsl-2-3 whatever comcast net it
>   says kris () nmap/hacker or whatever.  On EFnet, don't you have to
>   connect through a proxy or use the right shell account which
>   corresponds to the IP address you want to show?  I haven't used EFNet
>   in quite a while.
Yes, unless you know the right ppl or are an ircop, you need a FQDN
otherwise your IP addr is shown. WRT freenode's cloaks, I personally
am against this mis-feature.

> o Freenode apparently has many other channels for active open source projects.  Though
>   perhaps EFnet has more of them, I don't know.
I would hang out in #nmap on freenode too and have no problem with
that being the official chan either. I'm Fractal on freenode and am in
#lisp and #forth.

Doug

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