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Re: Disputing CVE-2011-4122
From: Jeff Mitchell <mitchell () kde org>
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:39:55 -0500
On 12/23/2011 06:22 PM, Solar Designer wrote:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 09:26:44AM -0500, Jeff Mitchell wrote:
I've been asked by the kcheckpass maintainer to lodge a dispute of
As explained in the blog entry linked from the CVE, the problem is
that neither kcheckpass nor OpenPAM validate the 'service_name' input
argument of pam_start(). This hole can be used to make PAM load
arbitrary shared libraries, which can be used to execute arbitrary code
as root, as kcheckpass is setuid root.
Besides loading of arbitrary shared libraries due to the OpenPAM
peculiarity, doesn't this kcheckpass feature allow a user to specify an
arbitrary PAM service name that is actually valid on the system, not
limited to PAM services intended for use by KDE? Isn't that a
vulnerability of itself? While kcheckpass itself doesn't grant access
to any resource, an alternate PAM stack (maybe only intended for use by
a specific service) might have modules with side-effects.
To me, kcheckpass looks poorly designed in letting the invoking user
specify an arbitrary PAM service name. Instead, the service name should
either be obtained from a trusted place or it should be checked against
a trusted whitelist.
For example, passwd(1) from SimplePAMApps does the latter: it has a
command-line option to specify a PAM service name suffix (which it'd
append to "passwd"), but the suffix must be whitelisted in
My understanding -- and I'm not the maintainer, so I'm typing this based
on my own understanding of the program and this problem from my talks
with the maintainer, whom I've CCed -- is that at a simple level it can
be used for normal PAM user authentication, but that it's also designed
to provide a simple interface to do arbitrary kinds of PAM
authentication depending on user/application needs. For instance, you
when invoking kcheckpass you can not only specify the PAM service name
but can also choose whether to use a stdin-based interface or a file
descriptor handle to communicate with it. So you get access to
authenticate with PAM for PAM services that use passwords but without
having to interface directly with PAM libraries.
This kind of behavior is not restricted within OpenPAM itself, and there
is nothing in the documentation that indicates that such external
accessor programs need to perform any sort of input sanitation on the
service name field. Sure -- ideally you want such programs performing
some kind of sanitation, but then you have to decide, rather than the
application developer using your accessor program, what is appropriate
and what isn't. There are some obvious candidates but a lot of choices
that would be harder.
So kcheckpass, at least for the moment, punts all of this down to
OpenPAM. Is it *nice*? No. Is it *valid*? Yes, unless OpenPAM changes
its programming guide to require sanity checking of inputs at a higher
level (and then it should still do its own checking anyways).
That's the basis for the maintainer wanting to challenge this CVE. Even
if everyone agrees that kcheckpass should do some kind of filtering of
service names, the fact remains that OpenPAM should have been doing its
own sanity checking anyways (since it should never simply trust user
input), and OpenPAM wasn't. If it wasn't kcheckpass that exposed this
problem, it would eventually have been something else.
I'll happily pass your comments along to the kcheckpass maintainer, and
he indicated to me during our discussions that some level of filtering
would probably be appropriate, but this CVE is due to OpenPAM's lack of
sanity checking and blaming the program that exposes it via valid (if
ugly) usage scenarios is misguided.
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Re: Disputing CVE-2011-4122 Solar Designer (Dec 23)
- Re: Disputing CVE-2011-4122 Jeff Mitchell (Dec 27)