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From: karl.schuttler at gmail.com (Karl Schuttler)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:27:01 -0700

Let me refer you to Fyodor(of nmap)'s post on the subject.

It's at question 4:


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Vincent Lape <vlape at me.com> wrote:

Hey we all got to start somewhere. the best advice i can give is from
my own experience. Earlier in life i was almost done with med school
when i realized computers wouldn't sue me for making a mistake :) I
started out as a lineman for the local cable company, quickly moving
into cablemodem installs, then up to a tech support role in the call
center. from there i took a couple of certs got a+, mcsa, security+. i
completely relate to the money situation, when i was doing this i had
2 in diapers, wife stayed at home. What i found out is investing in
yourself will pay off. a year later i got mcse + security and ccna,
within 3 months i was able to double my salary. 8 years and several
certs later i hold a director level position for a large BPO firm.

Keep in mind these things are not going to happen overnight. Take a
chance and invest in yourself and it will pay off in the long run.

Good luck!! start off with the fundamentals.... get some network /
system admin time under your belt. in due time youre security chi will

On May 12, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Nick G wrote:

Dear PaulDotCom community,

I am young (at heart, not in body) aspiring Security Professional. ?I
am currently in a blue collar job (good job just not my passion) and I
am wanting to work my way into the Information Security career space.
I am looking for a little advice and guidance in my first steps. ?I
was a silly youth and didn't make my way through college (I have a
handful of credits). ?Since dropping out I have grown a little family,
wife and 16 month old daughter, so my choices are guided by that a lot
(both money and time commitment wise). ?Currently I am enrolled in an
online B.S. in Information Technology degree from University of
Massachusetts though I am finding the $300 plus a credit hour (about
6k a year on my current plan), the time in which it will take to
complete (about 5 years at 2 classes every semester), and the lack of
focus to the information security field disheartening and making me
re-evaluating my choice. ?While I don't mind devoting time and money I
would prefer to do it toward something more relevant and focused to
where I want to be.
I know that I will want take classes from SANS in time but I do not
feel that I have the fundamentals yet. ?I also almost religiously
listen to PaulDotCom Security Weekly.

So I am hoping that you all will grace me with your earned wisdom and
give me a few nudges in the right direction so I don't waist too much
time and money.
I'm looking for advice on mainly on what are the best building blocks
to develop a solid foundation for my Ninja skills. ?Any programs,
certs, classes, books, websites, podcasts, video tutorials that you
can think of would be appreciated.

In advance, thank you for your time, energies and knowledge.

Nick G
Your friendly UPS man (though hopefully not for long)

~All healing is self healing.~

P.S.- I feel so newbie and I know doubt will receive some RTFB / RTFM
and GIF (Google it Fool) but I'll live through the embarrassment.
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