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Re: standalone 125KHz RFID card cloner
From: "Albert R. Campa" <abcampa () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:55:50 -0500

Community Pool access card HID ProxCard II. If you lose your card and want a
replacement, the charge is 50 dollars for a new one. Or you can have a
backup copy. ;)


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Albert R. Campa


On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org> wrote:

On 20 September 2010 17:14, Matt Neely <matt-lists () matthewneely com>
wrote:
125 kHz RFID cards, also referred to as LF cards, are still very
common.  Although I have no hard numbers to back this up I'd venture to
guess that HID Prox cards are still the most widely deployed access
control card in the US and these cards are 125 kHz cards.  The only
thing that might throw this off is all US government organizations have
migrated to 13.56 MHz cards.

In the 125 kHz range there are three types of RFID you'll commonly find
used by access control systems.  They are HID Prox, Indala and EM4100
(EM).  From what I've been able to research the device listed can only
clone cards that use the EM4100 chip.  EM cards tend to be used in
small/off label access control systems.  I've mainly seen EM cards used
at gyms and parking garages.  I've seen them vary rarely used for access
control in an office environment.  So depending on what you want to do
with it it might have limited usefulness.

As part of an ongoing research project I'll probably be order the device
listed below as well as the reader, cards, panel, etc to build an access
control system.  Once all that stuff arrives I can confirm the devices
capabilities.

In October I'm doing a presentation called Access Control Cards: The
Good, The Bad and The Clonable at the Cleveland Information Security
Summit.  After this talk I'll be doing some more blog posts and white
papers on what I discovered and will be getting into more depth on both
125 kHz and 13.56 MHz cards.

Cheers,
Matt


So it can do some low end systems but probably not much beyond getting
me into a gym locker room and maybe a parking garage. My problem is
RFID is that I don't have access to any systems that use it and I
don't work near any so anything I get to play with will be just that,
a toy I'd guess, so I think I'll leave it and save my cash for a
proper device when I actually need one and have time to use it
properly.

Thanks for the info.

Robin


Adrian Crenshaw wrote:
I was under he impression from a freind of mine that 125KHz  was
mostly for hobbiest stuff. Anyone know? One of the reviewers said his
parking pass was a 125KHz.

Thanks,
Adrian

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org
<mailto:robin () digininja org>> wrote:

    Just found this standalone 125KHz RFID card cloner, I wondered if
    anyone had seen one of these or if they thought it was worth the
$66.

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17230

    Robin
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