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Re: Best ROI Combination - Metasploit & Training
From: Arch Angel <arch3angel () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:10:16 -0500

Honestly Albert, I can't say that I have a legitment "reason" per say.  I
have found, in my experience, to get the full benefit of Nessus you really
need Security Center and the other products, but in general that's not a
real reason, just a personal opinion.  I have just seen NexPose as a better
product over all, in look, feel, and acurancy.  However, again this is just
my opinion I really don't have a reason outside personal preference I guess.

I'm not opposed to diving deeper into Nessus and learning the advanatges or
capabilities though.


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Albert R. Campa <abcampa () gmail com> wrote:

stand alone Nessus does integrate with Qradar.

I really like Nessus as a scanner and also as you say, using audit files.

SANS training like 560 or 542 are both good, offsec training is great as

im interested to know why you dont like Nessus as a vulnerability scanner?

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Arch Angel <arch3angel () gmail com> wrote:

I would like to thank everyone for the advice and suggestions, it is
truly appreciated and welcomed!

I cannot go into detail as to the company or the status but I can say
that in my region we are looking to build a ground up program and are under
Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and ISO guidelines / requirements.  We
currently have Nessus, which till I walked in had not even been installed.
 As a matter of fact I asked which machine it was on, the reply was "Well
we couldn't get it licensed because it would have required a firewall
change and that's a hassle so we just never installed it".  Needless to say
it is installed and I'm working through the trials and tribulations of red
tape to get it to do more for us than host discovery.  That being said I
absolutely love Nessus but not as a vulnerability scanner.  I like it
automating configuration checks, custom audit files, checking Active
Directory items, etc..  I prefer NexPose for vulnerability and NexPose
seamlessly integrates with Q1 Labs, QRadar SIEM, which I am not sure Nessus
does.  QRadar is coming down the pipe from corporate before too long.

I also prefer to invest in good people rather than tools which, as
mention above, have a tendency to sit in the virtual bookshelf collecting
virtual dust if the people don't know how to use them. This may end up
being answered based on $$$ over the 2013 calendar year.  Unfortunately I
was not part of the 2013 budget plans, so it may end up being nothing till
2014 :-(

For example, I am in the process of building a wireless auditing program
based on Kismet, and off the shelf hardware.  This is actually working
quite well so far during testing!


Thank you,

Robert Miller

Twitter: @arch3angel

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