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Re: Best ROI Combination - Metasploit & Training
From: Ryker Exum <Ryker.Exum () pathmaker-group com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:26:01 +0000

QRadar takes in quite a few vuln scanners as well as pulls in from several kinds of UTM devices (which may include vuln 

Here is a list to look through: http://q1labs.com/products/supported-devices.aspx

Depending on how you are managing your endpoints and budget you can potentially bundle Qradar and Tivoli Endpoint 
Manager. This will let you scan and patch to save some time. It will take in data from other scanners as well like 

From: pauldotcom-bounces () mail pauldotcom com [mailto:pauldotcom-bounces () mail pauldotcom com] On Behalf Of Albert 
R. Campa
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:51 AM
To: arch3angel () gmail com; PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Best ROI Combination - Metasploit & Training

stand alone Nessus does integrate with Qradar.

I really like Nessus as a scanner and also as you say, using audit files.

SANS training like 560 or 542 are both good, offsec training is great as well.

im interested to know why you dont like Nessus as a vulnerability scanner?

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Arch Angel <arch3angel () gmail com<mailto:arch3angel () gmail com>> wrote:
I would like to thank everyone for the advice and suggestions, it is truly appreciated and welcomed!

I cannot go into detail as to the company or the status but I can say that in my region we are looking to build a 
ground up program and are under Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and ISO guidelines / requirements.  We currently have 
Nessus, which till I walked in had not even been installed.  As a matter of fact I asked which machine it was on, the 
reply was "Well we couldn't get it licensed because it would have required a firewall change and that's a hassle so we 
just never installed it".  Needless to say it is installed and I'm working through the trials and tribulations of red 
tape to get it to do more for us than host discovery.  That being said I absolutely love Nessus but not as a 
vulnerability scanner.  I like it automating configuration checks, custom audit files, checking Active Directory items, 
etc..  I prefer NexPose for vulnerability and NexPose seamlessly integrates with Q1 Labs, QRadar SIEM, which I am not 
sure Nessus does.  QRadar is coming down the pipe from corporate before too long.

I also prefer to invest in good people rather than tools which, as mention above, have a tendency to sit in the virtual 
bookshelf collecting virtual dust if the people don't know how to use them. This may end up being answered based on $$$ 
over the 2013 calendar year.  Unfortunately I was not part of the 2013 budget plans, so it may end up being nothing 
till 2014 :-(

For example, I am in the process of building a wireless auditing program based on Kismet, and off the shelf hardware.  
This is actually working quite well so far during testing!


Thank you,

Robert Miller

Twitter: @arch3angel

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