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Re: Wireless assessment app
From: Hans Kokx <skipmeister123 () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:19:02 -0400

No, I remember WiFiFoFum doing this on Windows Mobile back in the iPaq days.  There was no GPS…just one wifi radio.  I 
always wondered how it managed, since it was so accurate.  Somebody should find that guy and shake him down for answers.

--  
Hans Kokx


On Monday, June 3, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Bill Swearingen wrote:

perhaps it keeps GPS coords & compass readings of last highest signal and "fakes" the radar map with that historical 
data.  
 
 
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org (mailto:robin () digininja org)> wrote:
On 2 June 2013 20:52, BillV-Lists <lists () varhol net (mailto:lists () varhol net)> wrote:
Agreed. I don't believe the location of the points on the graph are
representative of direction compared to the phone. I believe it is based on
signal strength only and those points just move closer to the center. It's
been a while since I've used this though and don't currently have it
available to test.
 
That is exactly what I thought but my friend couldn't be convinced.
I'll just have to live with them being in the dark about radio.
 
Robin
 
On 6/2/2013 12:22 PM, Larry Pesce wrote:

It can't.  The display only looks good and cannot actually provide
direction.



On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org (mailto:robin () digininja org)> wrote:


On Jun 2, 2013 11:41 AM, "BillV-Lists" <lists () varhol net (mailto:lists () varhol net)> wrote:

I don't believe this was answered. I believe you're thinking of WiFiFoFum
and it can only be installed on jailbroken devices. Here is a screenshot:


http://images.macworld.com/images/reviews/graphics/139268-wififofum_original.jpg

Ye that looks like it.

How can it do that from a single device?

Robin

Bill


On 5/31/2013 3:51 AM, Robin Wood wrote:

Slightly off topic but something I'm curious about, there is an iPhone
app I saw that shows APs on a radar type screen to indicate what direction
each is away from you. I know you can't do this accurately with a single
radio but the person showing me swore that it was usually spot on.

Anyone any idea how they would be doing it?

Robin

On May 31, 2013 3:28 AM, "Mike Perez" <mike () pauldotcom com (mailto:mike () pauldotcom com)> wrote:

I'm thinking of getting a Samsung Galaxy S4, Android version that Google
recently announced.  Do these apps require root or just Vanilla Android?

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Bill Swearingen
Sent: 5/30/2013 22:18
To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Wireless assessment app

I agree w/Larry -- Check out WiFi Analyzer for Android.


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Larry Pesce <larry () pauldotcom com (mailto:larry () pauldotcom com)>
wrote:

Brian,

We talk about this quite a bit in SANS SEC617.  I hate to say it, but I
think you are correct on the iPhone side, mostly due to the fact that
the wireless drivers are "less than open". To my knowledge, monitor
mode
support does not exist on non-jailbroken iDevices (I'm not sure about
jailbroken ones).

My solution?  Go Android.  I picked up a Nexus 7 and use the following
tools frequently:

Kisbee - Zigbee sniffer (for use with 3rd party hardware)
Pcap Capture - Monitor mode WiFi capture with a specific ALFA wireless
card and OTG cable
WiFiFoFum - Rogue AP locator
WiFi Analyzer - Kismet-like wireless discovery
WiGLE WiFi Wardriving - Kismet-like wireless discovery
Cloudshark - Cloud based wireshark for analyzing pcaps

Hope that helps.

- L

On 5/30/13 9:58 AM, Brian Wilhide wrote:
I am curious if anyone has found any good apps for mobile devices for
wifi testing?  I have been told that all of the iPhone apps don't
detect
networks with hidden SSIDs; has anyone found any contrary evidence? I
am
looking for a simple solution, not a dedicated device.

Have a great day,

Brian


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