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Re: Wireless assessment app
From: Brian Wilhide <brian.wilhide () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:38:08 -0400

Started working through different apps, but I am not seeing anything with
examples or screenshots in the 5ghz range.  Has anyone looked into tools at
the 5ghz range?


On Tuesday, June 4, 2013, Hans Kokx <skipmeister123 () gmail com> wrote:
No, I remember WiFiFoFum doing this on Windows Mobile back in the iPaq
days.  There was no GPS…just one wifi radio.  I always wondered how it
managed, since it was so accurate.  Somebody should find that guy and shake
him down for answers.

Hans Kokx

On Monday, June 3, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Bill Swearingen wrote:

perhaps it keeps GPS coords & compass readings of last highest signal and
"fakes" the radar map with that historical data.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org> wrote:

On 2 June 2013 20:52, BillV-Lists <lists () varhol net> wrote:
Agreed. I don't believe the location of the points on the graph are
representative of direction compared to the phone. I believe it is based
signal strength only and those points just move closer to the center.
been a while since I've used this though and don't currently have it
available to test.

That is exactly what I thought but my friend couldn't be convinced.
I'll just have to live with them being in the dark about radio.


On 6/2/2013 12:22 PM, Larry Pesce wrote:

It can't.  The display only looks good and cannot actually provide

On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org> wrote:

On Jun 2, 2013 11:41 AM, "BillV-Lists" <lists () varhol net> wrote:

I don't believe this was answered. I believe you're thinking of
and it can only be installed on jailbroken devices. Here is a


Ye that looks like it.

How can it do that from a single device?



On 5/31/2013 3:51 AM, Robin Wood wrote:

Slightly off topic but something I'm curious about, there is an iPhone
app I saw that shows APs on a radar type screen to indicate what
each is away from you. I know you can't do this accurately with a
radio but the person showing me swore that it was usually spot on.

Anyone any idea how they would be doing it?


On May 31, 2013 3:28 AM, "Mike Perez" <mike () pauldotcom com> wrote:

I'm thinking of getting a Samsung Galaxy S4, Android version that
recently announced.  Do these apps require root or just Vanilla

Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Bill Swearingen
Sent: 5/30/2013 22:18
To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Wireless assessment app

I agree w/Larry -- Check out WiFi Analyzer for Android.

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Larry Pesce <larry () pauldotcom com>


We talk about this quite a bit in SANS SEC617.  I hate to say it,
but I
think you are correct on the iPhone side, mostly due to the fact that
the wireless drivers are "less than open". To my knowledge, monitor
support does not exist on non-jailbroken iDevices (I'm not sure about
jailbroken ones).

My solution?  Go Android.  I picked up a Nexus 7 and use the
tools frequently:

Kisbee - Zigbee sniffer (for use with 3
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