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Re: Help Convincing Employer to Pay for SANS Training
From: Robin Wood <robin () digininja org>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:48:24 +0100

On 9 April 2013 07:11, swierckxlists <swierckxlists () gmail com> wrote:

 Hey Pierre,

What also might work is to propose a contract where it is stipulated that
you will refund a part of the cost should you leave the company within a
given time frame (e.g. 100% if you leave within a year, 50% for 2 years
etc.), this way management is sure the investment (training should always
be sold to management as investment) will pay off or be paid back ...

greets


A slight variation that I used with a company where they didn't think
security was important was that I paid for the course but then whenever
they wanted me to do anything related to what I'd learnt on the course they
paid me a "bonus" for that work.

For them they had no initial outlay and if they were right they didn't have
to pay anything, for me, I knew that they would use me and it meant I
wasn't tied in.

I also got local grant funding for the training but didn't tell them that
so we negotiated rates based on full course price.

Robin



On 9/04/2013 5:16, Michael Allen wrote:

 Hi Pierre,
Not sure of your situation. However what worked for me was volunteering to
cover a part of the cost. The training budget got cut. I really wanted to
do the course and so I made them an offer, It worked for me.
Regards,
Michael


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Pierre Wills <pierre.wills () gmail com>wrote:

 I have already talked to my direct management and they are all for
sending me to SANS Fire 2013 in Washington, DC.  The only issue now is
that I have to convince upper management that it is worth it to pay for me
to go to the training.  The class I am taking is SEC506 Securing
Unix/Linux and considering our environment is 97% Linux it should be a no
brainer.  But I was wondering if anyone could help provided me with some
bullet points I can use in my write up to help convince upper management to
pay for the course.  The company I work for is a contacting company
mostly to the Federal Government with some Private Industry so anything
related to the Federal Government would be great.

 Thanks

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