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Re: European conferences
From: <jackadaniel () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 02:31:16 +0000

I think RSA US is a much bigger and better event than RSA Europe- for the right audience. It is largely about the 
business of security, and security in the enterprise. It is not geared towards the hacker or practitioner.  It is 
valuable for me, but I've been in vendor space for years and have business reasons for being there.  The talks are a 
mixed bag, there is certainly a lot of vendor-centric “bought” content, and a fair amount of mindless drivel- but there 
is some very good content, too. The content tends to be more enterprise and management-focused than Shmoo, BH/DEF CON, 
BSides, etc.


The expo floor can be interesting, but you generally have to get to the edges to find new and unique things.  In 2014 
the expo will flow into two halls, they're outgrown Moscone South.  It is overwhelming and horrifying the first time 
you experience the expo floor.


Then there's the price, not cheap for a full pass.


I'll be at RSA US again next year, but will also be at BSides SF.  One is for work, the other because I like it (and 
I'm helping organize and run it, so I kinda need to be there).


Jack







From: Glen Roberts
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎3‎, ‎2013 ‎9‎:‎16‎ ‎AM
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Jack, I’m curious if you think RSA in San Fran is any different than RSA Europe in that respect. Personally, I found it 
to be a bunch of salespeople walking around in suits trying to sell each other their same old, boring wares but renamed 
with the word “Cloud” in front.



Don’t get me wrong-I’m not an RSA hater or anything but I got more out of Austin B-Sides in one day and didn’t feel 
like I was a head in a cattle drive. 
















Regards,







Glen Roberts, CISSP

www.linkedin.com/in/glenroberts

@InternetGeneral















On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Jack Daniel <jackadaniel () gmail com> wrote:


RSA Europe: NOT.  Small, commercial, and boring, although getting
better.  For that kind of commercial "business of InfoSec" con,
InfoSecurity Europe (London, April) is probably the best.  BSides
London will be nearby on the Tuesday of that week, too.

I've never been to other events in the region, but I've heard good
things about BruCon and 44con.

Jack
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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Mike Perez <mike () pauldotcom com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm asking on behalf of someone else, but, for a first time conference goer,
what would you recommend for first timers in the UK area?

RSA Europe?  BruCon?  something else?

I'd recommend BruCon based on prior discussions with folks, but I've
actually never been.

- Mike

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