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Re: [PEN-TEST] Cissp
From: "Masse, Robert" <rmasse () RICHTER CA>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:09:32 -0400


I think that if you have a good handle on general security principles and a
of common sense, you will be OK by reading the Information Security
handbook only.

I decided to write my CISSP 2 weeks before the test.  I studied literally a
of 5 hours by just reading the book twice and just showed up for the test.
level intelligence would be best considered as sub-par.

Experience wise, I have been involved in _security only_ for 3 years  (the
for the designation) with 7 years of previous unix/router/nt administration.

Hope that helps a bit,


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Rothke [mailto:brothke () EBNETWORKS COM]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-TEST] Cissp


When I was at Ernst & Young, we developed an internal CISSP preparation

They decided not to offer the class again but I still have the tens sets of
PowerPoint slides from the CBK Review.

Let me know if you want a copy.


Ben Rothke, CISSP <brothke () ebnetworks com>
Network Security Consultant
eB Networks, Inc. - Leading the way to eBusiness - at NetSpeed!

-----Original Message-----
From: Penetration Testers [mailto:PEN-TEST () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On Behalf
Of Sassaman, Kim
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 7:20 PM
Subject: [PEN-TEST] Cissp
Importance: High

This is off topic but what resources did you use to study for the CISSP
certification.  Im looking into taking the exam and was wondering if there
were some better refrences than the study guide availiable??

Kim Sassaman
Charles Schwab, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Meritt, Jim [mailto:Jim.Meritt () WANG COM]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-TEST] Testing a "rogue site"

Concur.  To have a system to secure, you need the system.

Has anyone noticed that the original question was totally non-technical?

There seems to be a belief that all that is involved is
technical.  There is
more to it than that.  How do you write up what you find?  How do
you "sell"
it (to management). The business aspects appear to be totally overlooked.

The "dot coms" thought that way.  Notice the business failures?

The opinions expressed above are my own.  The facts simply are
and belong to
James W. Meritt, CISSP, CISA
Senior Information Systems Security and Audit Analyst,
Information Assurance
Center of Excellence
Wang Government Services, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Karyn Pichnarczyk [mailto:karyn () SANDSTORM NET]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Testing a "rogue site"


I totally disagree with the two rules stated above.  yes, You need your
company's written approval of your responsibilities.  But unless you go by
the One and Only rule, you will not last long in the security trade:

1. Business Must Continue.

If this rule is not followed, then it doesn't matter how good or bad
the security posture is: the company just won't exist!


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