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Re: [PEN-TEST] War Dialers
From: Todd Beebe <todd () SECURELOGIX COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:46:57 -0500

Toneloc is good for finding modems.  But, the value of the commercial
products (both TeleSweep Secure and PhoneSweep) is the username/password
guessing (read vulnerability testing).

Knowing you have 55 numbers that answer with a tone and knowing that you
have 55 numbers that answer with tone and have easily guessable
username/passwords are two different things.

The comparison in the IP world is running a port scanner and a vulnerability
scanner.  You can either receive a list of xxx number of systems that MIGHT
be running vulnerable services and xxx number of systems that ARE running
vulnerable systems.

If you use a war dialer or port scanner, someone will need to manually test
the target systems to find out if they need attention to fix the

-----Original Message-----
From: Batten, Gerald [mailto:GBatten () EXOCOM COM]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-TEST] War Dialers

I've used ToneLoc on several occasions, and it's worked perfectly for me.
It's even worked under NT using my pcmcia modem.  Who cares if it hasn't
been updated since 1994?  It tells me what numbers have a tone or not, which
ones have a busy signal, etc... that's all I need for an initial recon of my
client's phone system.  I usually take the list of detected carriers and
compare it to their phone list and see who owns the lines.

My .02c worth.


-----Original Message-----
From: Alfred Huger [mailto:ah () SECURITYFOCUS COM]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 10:22 AM
Subject: War Dialers

Hey Folks,

Anyone have any experiance with commercial war dialing
packages compared
to the free ones? In particular I am wondering about:

1. PhoneSweep
   url: http://www.securityfocus.com/products/280

Compared to:

2. ToneLoc (tools)
   url: http://www.securityfocus.com/tools/48

Alfred Huger
VP of Engineering

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