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Penetration Testing: Re: [PEN-TEST] Detecting the presence of a firewall

Re: [PEN-TEST] Detecting the presence of a firewall

From: Mule, Andrew <AMule_at_securify.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:49:14 -0400

True. These ports do provide evidence of the host being a CPFW. However,
this assumes that mgmt is needed from a public location (ports 256,257,258).
Any company concerned about corporate network security would not run these
FW's with external mgmt ports enabled. So the new question is how do you ID
a CPFW with these ports closed? A good answer, stated below, was NMAP with
the -O option. This option will spit out something like this:

Host : X.X.X.X
OS : Check Point FireWall-1 4.0 SP-5 (IPSO build)
        Nokia IPSO 3.2-fcs4 releng 783
        NOKIA IPSO 3.2 Running Checkpoint Firewall-1
        Nokia IPSO 3.2-fcs4 releng 783 (FreeBSD Based)
Ports : 53/tcp closed domain
        256/tcp open rap
        257/tcp closed set
        258/tcp closed yak-chat

Host : X.X.X.X
OS : Nokia IPSO 3.2-fcs4 releng 783
Ports : 53/tcp closed domain
        256/tcp open rap
        257/tcp open set
        258/tcp open yak-chat

Getting addresses behind a firewall can be difficult. Finding out where the
web, mail or ftp servers usually point to the external IP address of the FW
itself since arping is done by the FW for the client. I have been
experiementing with Firewalk as well as modified TOS fields within the ICMP
protocol to force identification of internal hosts but have not been
successful....YET. If anyone has something to add to my madness please do so
with care.

Andrew A Mulé

Network Security Architect

Securify Inc.

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Received on May 14 2001

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