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Re: Honeypot detection and countermeasures
From: miguel.dilaj () pharma novartis com
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:53:39 +0200

Hi Larry

As a general rule, if I've been hired for a pen-test, I don't worry too 
much about being detected by a honeypot (but on the personal side, perhaps 
I'll feel a little bad ;-)
Some times, when there's a honeypot (or even NIDS), I've been informed in 
advance, some times not... it's up to the company that's hiring me, but I 
think that this always came on the table when we discussed the results.
A honeypot can usually be seen as low hanging fruit (not a general rule), 
at least when comparec with other systems on the same network. So you've 
to distrust such a system.
Other than distrusting the low hanging fruit, a honeypot could be seen as 
a "no-clear-purpose" machine. So this is another bit to add to your 
"distrust feeling".
There're some very clear cases, for example a host with DTK with default 
installation, that can be easily avoided upon detecting them.

aka Nekromancer

Larry Colen <lrcrypto () red4est com>
17/06/2003 23:03

        To:     pen-test () securityfocus com
        Subject:        Honeypot detection and countermeasures

Do you worry about being detected by honeypots?

When you do a pen-test, do you already know of the existence of
honeypots, and their location, so that it is an easy matter to avoid

If you are concerned about honeypots, how do you test to see if the
system under attack is a honeypot or a production machine?

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