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Re: Ethical Hacking Training
From: Mike Hoskins <mike () adept org>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:24:22 -0800

Don Parker wrote:
These courses are giving people unrealistic expectations of what they will know after one of these 1 week courses. Nothing wrong with trying to make a dollar, but one should be honest as well in the process. It is doing a great disservice to the industry as a whole to make people think that they will be a "hacker" after a 1 week course. It should be clearly stated that these courses are but an introduction into the world of the true hacker. It will be up to the student to make of it what they will, and then build upon it. Showing people what "Ethical Hacking" is all about is a laudable goal. The thing is we must not forget our own ethics along the way to doing so in pursuit of the almight dollar.

i agree with what you are saying, but let's be honest... if someone is actually dense enough to think they'll be a "hacker" after a one week course, only half of which (if you're lucky) is actual "hands-on" lab time... well, let's just say they'll probably actually be happy to "learn" how to use a port scanner.

Sorry for the rant folks, but this hits a sore spot for me.

ditto.

if you're a CISSP+whatever with 10+ years of industry experience... why would you bother with such a course to begin with? or even think about it? by then, you know the only way you learn in life is hard work. reading, brute force, lots of lab time... there is no "one week" answer. so it would seem to me that these "ethical hacking" courses, which many seem to feel are lacking in content, should quite obviously be seen as "but an introduction". advertising claims may make it less obvious, as is often the case, but most people in our industry will already have learned to read marketing brochures with their spin-goggles firmly attached.


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