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RE: snmp
From: Mike <niro () optonline net>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:53:49 -0400


LOL...I love how you over confident I'm-too-good-to-answer-your-question but
not too good to brag/talk-down to you, outdated 1960 knowledged security
"experts" respond to questions from people that are trying to learn and do
some research (as paper certified as some seem to be).  

You ran to security bizness coz you got sick of new IT comers?  What does
that even mean??  Does it mean that you tried so hard to learn security for
16 years that you forgot to take your English classes?  That's what it
sounds like to me...you were a new comer to this "security bizness"
once...according to you you were a "new comer" for 16 years because it took
you 16 years to be able to say you know anything...and you STILL don't know
how to speak, maybe you should learn that before posting here.  I just hope
you're not a security auditor in the US...I can see it now...

"heya, I'm here ta audit yer bizness, pleez give the say to do the ok on the
test of the pen".

Just like my post, your post was completely unnecessary, or at least you
could try not to talk down so much to less knowledged people just to make
yourself feel better about taking 16 years to learn what SNMP is.



-----Original Message-----
From: DokFLeed [mailto:dokfleed () dokfleed net] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:10 AM
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: snmp


Jaun,
I have no idea how you got the "Mcse Ccna Ccsa Scsa"
tailing your name,
first of all you are not authorized to do this, in a decent company you 
should get fired,
second, you had just exposed your company by posting the phone number
third, LEARN first what SNMP , then pen-test it .
I ran to security bizness coz I got sick of new IT comers, and for a while I

though none of them will dare to join the security bizness unless they feel 
they are competitive. It took me 16 years before I can say yes I know 
something about Security..
when you fix all of that you might be able to pen-test anything, I hope u 
got my point




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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. DuFresne" <dufresne () sysinfo com>
To: "Juan B" <juanbabi () yahoo com>
Cc: <pen-test () securityfocus com>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: snmp



You start by getting yer "get out of jail free card" from mgt.  If you
lack that, you are likely to get fired and then prosecuted.

thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Juan B wrote:

HI,



I am responsible of the security in my company.



One of the sysadmins told me that they use in one of
the networks Snmp and that the community is public.



I want to pen test this issue meaning that I want to
find ways to retrieve from the devices info, and show
the IT manager that he must change the community.



The reason that I want to do It my self is that I
don't believe in the way that is just going to him and
tell him..." its written in the internet that we must
change public community to something else.



So how or from where do I start ?



Thanks



juan

=====
Juan Fernandez.

Security Engineer

Tel: +972-52-4306781
Mcse Ccna Ccsa Scsa




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