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Re: Tool to find hidden web proxy server
From: "Gary E. Miller" <gem () rellim com>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 17:04:05 -0700 (PDT)

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Yo Jose!

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Jose Maria Lopez wrote:

But if you allow in and out from specific ports you have at least a
second level of security over what the original poster said it had.
Only allowing out from some IPs it's possible, but I find it very
difficult to make rules for the outer IPs, having in mind the original
poster wants to have internet connection from the LAN for that
machines.

If you leave just ONE port open, then an insider can use it to tunnel
out.  That one port is often DNS/udp.  You have to work very, very,
hard to filter out IP over DNS/udp.  You could force the use of
an internal DNS server, but if it allows any recursive lookups out
of the firewall then game over.

This /. describes how to do it:
        http://slashdot.org/articles/00/09/10/2230242.shtml

The insider does not even need an open port.  Only TCP/IP (proto 6) and
TCP/UDP (proto 17) use "ports".  The insider can just use a "portless"
protocol like TCP/ICMP (proto 1), TCP/ESP (proto 50), TCP/AH (proto 51),
etc.

There are several IPSEC stacks available as freeware that use TCP/ESP
and TCP/AH.

RGDS
GARY
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        gem () rellim com  Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676

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