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RE: Pen-Test as a favor
From: techlists () comcast net
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:27:55 +0000

I would like to second that suggestion about practicing with the tools in your own lab first.

I had a friend that ran a small ISP that allowed me to try a vulnerability scan on his network, with my promise that 
the tools wouldn't change anything; it would all be passive testing.

Nessus, it seems (at least at that time, maybe different now), when running an IIS test, deleted the index.htm file on 
a webserver, which wiped out this fellow's online webmail application. Needless to say, he was quite a bit peeved at 
the "service" I was providing him "as a favor".

When someone's livelihood is depending on the network you're testing, you don't want to make such mistakes. Practice 
with your tools a lot before you touch someone else's network!

PG

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Shenk, Jerry A" <jshenk () decommunications com>
I would get something.  I don't think I'd get too crazy about it but
definitely having something in writing will be a good idea.  Your
friend, the Admin/CTO may not be the person who would "come after you". 

BTW, I'd also be VERY careful.  Don't go testing new tools this way, do
that in your own lab.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Benedict [mailto:chrisb () daemonnews org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:49 PM
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Pen-Test as a favor

Hey, I'm working as an IT intern in a doctors office and I got 
permission to do a little pen-testing on their servers on my own time.  
How necessary would it be to get written permission before I take any 
action?  The Admin/CTO is a pretty good friend and I doubt would even 
consider taking any legal action if anything happened.

If I do need a contract or something could someone point me in the 
direction of a template.  I have never even seen such a 
contract/agreement before and I would never be able to write one up on 
my own properly.

Thanks,
Chris Benedict

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