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RE: Pen-Test as a favor
From: "Barnhart, Troy" <TBarnhart () rcrh org>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:52:31 -0600

No offense and in all seriousness, let's play word-association with the key words from your email...

1)  IT intern / on own time  >>  Disposable -> "Plausible Deniability"
2)  Their servers / Doctors' office >>  HIPAA
3)  CTO / Pretty Good Friend / No Legal Action  >> Until the Doctors' Office gets Legal-Action.

I repeat again - HIPAA and even futher... JCAHO/OIG/AMA/SOX.  
That's a HUGE rabbit-hole you don't want to go down...

You should have it in writing and your "get-out-of-jail-free" card in hand before the very first keystroke.

After your FIRST lawsuit that is related to an "electronic" patient-data disclosure - 
you won't believe that you even considered it originally...

You can tell the doctors who've been through an eDiscovery procedure - 
they have no problems with complex passwords and such...  

The other doctors [who haven't] are demanding for "single-signon"; 3-character, alpha-only passwords; and root-level 
access.

Troy Barnhart, Sr. Systems Programmer,
tbarnhart () rcrh org
Regional Health Corp.
Rapid City, South Dakota


-----Original Message-----
From: "Chris Benedict" <chrisb () daemonnews org>
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Sent: 7/12/06 8:49 PM
Subject: Pen-Test as a favor

Hey, I'm working as an IT intern in a doctors office and I got 
permission to do a little pen-testing on their servers on my own time.  
How necessary would it be to get written permission before I take any 
action?  The Admin/CTO is a pretty good friend and I doubt would even 
consider taking any legal action if anything happened.

If I do need a contract or something could someone point me in the 
direction of a template.  I have never even seen such a 
contract/agreement before and I would never be able to write one up on 
my own properly.

Thanks,
Chris Benedict

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