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RE: rules of engagement scope (DoS testing)
From: "Craig Wright" <cwright () bdosyd com au>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:31:37 +1000


This is ok on a private WAN, or if you have the permission of the ISP (and this means all the ISP's from your system to 
the Site)

On the other hand if you do flood the target and cause any damage to any party along the way as a direct consequence of 
the scanning than you are liable for tortious negligence and damages to all effected parties.

Eg, if you scan the target and the ISP gateway router is not up to the task shutting down and causing a loss to the 
ISP, you are the person instigating the scan are liable for all damage to the ISP and also to any other client of the 
ISP unless you have express permission from the ISP and all of the ISP's clients.

Lets hope that your PI insurance is good...

Regards,
Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Mačok [mailto:martin.macok () underground cz]
Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2006 4:57 PM
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: rules of engagement scope (DoS testing)

On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 06:08:05PM +0200, Marco Ivaldi wrote:

"7. Any form of flood testing where a person, network, system, or
service, is overwhelmed from a larger and stronger source is
forbidden."

Our clients sometimes wants to be flooded like that just to see what
happens and if they can handle it (fe. if their operators have a clue
what is actually happening, whether their system automagically
switches to backup lines, if their ISP is able to help them or how
long does it take to fully recover... or maybe they are just bored ;-)).

Martin Mačok
ICT Security Consultant

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