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Is there a scam in Security Certifications
From: adich71 () yahoo com
Date: 28 May 2006 05:56:45 -0000

I came across these posts recently at a forum 

There is more hype than substance in EC-Council. 

Check this link https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=429981 

EC-Council or International Council of ECommerce Consultants is a Nevada incorporated company and has NO office in New 
York as they claim. Pay them a visit and there is absolutely NOTHING there. Any enquiry called is always met with one 
response - please email. Try checking their claims before you invest in their products 

EC-Council had announced an university earlier this year at Wyoming. They claim the certifications would get credits 
for their masters program. Its a diploma paper mill at best that will have its license revoked sooner or later as per 
the legislature revoking all unaccredited programs. Check this link  http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2006/Digest/SF0069.htm 

From their university website "EC-Council University is licensed by the State of Wyoming under Wyo. Stat. 21-2-401 
through 21-2-407 and neither the Department of Education nor the Wyoming State Board of Education has accredited or 
endorsed any course of study offered by EC-Council University" 

If you check their members list as well, you will realize that most of them are ficticious or hardly involved. Renaming 
the only program they sell is not going to fool the government for long I guess. 

Check this link http://www.eccouncil.org/cnda.htm and compare it with http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm - Its the same 
thing. What is the value for existing CEH if they are going to certify some of the candidates as CNDA? 

Everything is the same. There is no alteration. Its not just money here... If some of us are going to be CEH and some 
CNDA, wont one destroy the value of the other? They are out to squeeze every last drop of money they can - think about 
it... To do LPT, you must have attended training. Check their website http://eccouncil.org/lpt/LPT-Course-Outline.htm 

Look at the cost - 2500 USD and see what you get in return 

Plaque with your name on it 
LPT License card 
Resource CD-ROMS 
LPT T-shirts 
LPT caps 
LPT Certificate 
LPT Lapel Pin 
Membership ID 

The million dollar question - license for what???
Why dont we go to archive.org to the wayback machine (as shown in CEH course) and look at EC-Council's site. ECSA / 
ECSP/ ECAD / LPT / etc have been announced more than a year ago. Why are there no certifications coming out yet?

The funniest part is that nobody else claims LPT is prestigious - nor is there an industry demand or recognition. LPT 
will grant you the license (to do what???). Please mail them and ask what the license stands for? 


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