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Re: Is there a scam in Security Certifications
From: xelerated <xelerated () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:24:04 -0400

Good research.... alarming to say the least.

I have a CEH cert. now im bummed.

But I also took the class. I did like the class, and it did have some
value for me.
I dont regret taking it at all. It filled in a few gaps that I had.

Makes me wonder about going after any others though.



On 28 May 2006 05:56:45 -0000, adich71 () yahoo com <adich71 () yahoo com> wrote:
I came across these posts recently at a forum


There is more hype than substance in EC-Council.


Check this link https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=429981


EC-Council or International Council of ECommerce Consultants is a Nevada incorporated company and has NO office in New 
York as they claim. Pay them a visit and there is absolutely NOTHING there. Any enquiry called is always met with one 
response - please email. Try checking their claims before you invest in their products


EC-Council had announced an university earlier this year at Wyoming. They claim the certifications would get credits 
for their masters program. Its a diploma paper mill at best that will have its license revoked sooner or later as per 
the legislature revoking all unaccredited programs. Check this link  http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2006/Digest/SF0069.htm


From their university website "EC-Council University is licensed by the State of Wyoming under Wyo. Stat. 21-2-401 through 
21-2-407 and neither the Department of Education nor the Wyoming State Board of Education has accredited or endorsed any course 
of study offered by EC-Council University"


If you check their members list as well, you will realize that most of them are ficticious or hardly involved. Renaming 
the only program they sell is not going to fool the government for long I guess.


Check this link http://www.eccouncil.org/cnda.htm and compare it with http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm - Its the same 
thing. What is the value for existing CEH if they are going to certify some of the candidates as CNDA?


Everything is the same. There is no alteration. Its not just money here... If some of us are going to be CEH and some 
CNDA, wont one destroy the value of the other? They are out to squeeze every last drop of money they can - think about 
it... To do LPT, you must have attended training. Check their website http://eccouncil.org/lpt/LPT-Course-Outline.htm


Look at the cost - 2500 USD and see what you get in return


Plaque with your name on it

LPT License card

Resource CD-ROMS

LPT T-shirts

LPT caps

LPT Certificate

LPT Lapel Pin

Membership ID


The million dollar question - license for what???



Why dont we go to archive.org to the wayback machine (as shown in CEH course) and look at EC-Council's site. ECSA / 
ECSP/ ECAD / LPT / etc have been announced more than a year ago. Why are there no certifications coming out yet?


The funniest part is that nobody else claims LPT is prestigious - nor is there an industry demand or recognition. LPT 
will grant you the license (to do what???). Please mail them and ask what the license stands for?





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