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Re: CISSP-ISSMP
From: intel96 <intel96 () bellsouth net>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 09:29:06 -0400

Sometimes you need a cert because someone that you are working for
request that as a minimum requirement.  Before spending your own money
on a cert (/like I have to do/) you should determine its value to you. 
You need to understand your job objectives short-term and long-term
before spending your money on a cert that has little value based on your
objectives.

I am also looking at the CISSP concentrations certs, but I am also
looking at obtaining more technical ones like SANS Gold level. To
balance these certs I am planning to take some graduate classes in
Information Assurance at one of the National Centers of Academic
Excellence in Information Assurance Education (CAEIAE).
http://www.nsa.gov/ia/academia/caeiae.cfm

Intel96




Nathaniel Hirsch wrote:
I recently got my CISSP.  The company that I work for paid for me to
go to a class, and take the test assuming I passed. If I failed then
the $500 would be on my nickle.  Thankfully I did not fail.  The main
reason they wanted me to get my CISSP is now they can charge more for
the work they contract me out to, this and you need it or some other
equivalent to do level 3 and 4 DITSCAP testing.  As for an ROI after I
passed a got a 15% raise which was nice, but I was also up for a
raise, so I can not tell you how much that was due to the CISSP, and
how much was due to my overall performance at the company.  Personally
I feel that the exam and certification process is a waste of time, and
so does everyone else at the company, but they are needed, or so they
say.  However we have a guy who works here who is a CISSP and a
CEH(certified ethical hacker), and to be truthful, he is quite
possible the most worthless tester I have ever had to work with, and
everyone else in the office knows this.  So having the cert doesn't
make you good, and doesn't prove to anyone that you have experience or
skill.  It just proves that you can pick the correct answer out of a
four possible answer on a 250 question multiple choice exam. As for
giving an out of 10 scale for everything you mentioned I guess they
would all be 5s because it all really depends on a lot of other
things.  As for what job its good for, I would have to say more
managerial then anything else.  The topics covered are really only
puddle deep, not enough to know whats going on, just enough to know
that it is going on though.


Nathaniel Hirsch, CISSP
Xacta Corporation
656 Shrewsbury Ave.
Shrewsbury, NJ 07702

On 5/8/06, Mohamed Abdel Kader <makster12 () hotmail com> wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone out there did the CISSP-ISSMP concentration.
I want to know the value added in the areas listed below, in an out
of 10
scale for example:

    Total ROI
    Career Advancement
    Industry Demand
    Raise Potential

    Suitable for what job/position (not an out of 10 answer of course
:))

I also want to know the material to study from.

Thanks a million.
MAK

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