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Re: My Frustrations
From: Sat Jagat Singh <flyingdervish () yahoo com>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:54:27 -0800 (PST)

Having read your blog post, I would say that I share some of these frustrations.  But many organizations are really 
only trying to cover their asses and put a check in the box to say that, yes we got an assessment done to satisfy the 
letter of the regulations.  These are companies that are more concerned about the cost of the project than the actual 
security.  While such people tend to get what they deserve, it does create a negative reputation for the profession as 
a whole.

Yes, I do think it is a "profession", but we have not "professionalized" ourselves by requiring licensing.  The 
industry reliance on certification rather than licensing as a credential somewhat serves to muddy the waters because 
the decision makers hiring security consultants don't really know what a given certification covers.  We could debate 
the value of different certifications until the cows come home but I don't want to insult anyone and we can probably 
agree that too many of them do not guarantee that the holder has real qualifications and the security unsavy will never 
really know how to evaluate that.  More and more I lean toward some form of professional licensure.  One of the states 
will have to move in this direction before a serious debate about it will be opened.  Until then, caveat emptor.


--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Adriel T. Desautels <ad_lists () netragard com> wrote:

From: Adriel T. Desautels <ad_lists () netragard com>
Subject: My Frustrations
To: "pen-test list" <pen-test () securityfocus com>
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 11:19 AM
I recently wrote this blog entry and wanted to get some
comments from readers of this list. I'm frustrated with
the caliber of the people that are offering security
services and posing as experts, thats the subject of the
post. Please comment, insult, whatever... I'm
interested.

http://snosoft.blogspot.com/


Adriel T. Desautels
ad_lists () netragard com




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