Penetration Testing: Re: Using 0days as part of pen-test?

[Pete Herzog <lists () isecom org>]

My point exactly. I agree with you completely. The blackbox model for 
pen testing is flawed if it is applied to anything not proprietary and 
completely new.
-pete.

Oliver Schad wrote:
> I don't understand something: Why should you test a blackbox, why 
> shouldn't you get all informations except user accounts? You don't know 
> the knowledge of all attackers around the world about this specific 
> network. You should assume, there is somebody who knows everything, 
> should you?
> I mean, why should I choose as a tester a role of an attacker who knows 
> nothing about the network if there is somebody in this world who could 
> attack this network with all knowledge he needs?
> Regards
> Oli