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FC: Did Super Bowl cameras used by police violate the law?
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:17:18 -0500

[The Washington Post article on this (http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9757-2001Jan31.html) dismissed the Fourth Amendment problems a little too glibly, I think. --Declan]


Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:44:50 -0500
To: declan () well com
From: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg () epic org>
Subject: Re: FC: Cameras at Super Bowl scanned faces looking for criminals

I think there is a reasonably good argument that this
was an unconstitutional search. Keep in mind that this
involved a (1) search by means of an enhanced sensory
device that (2) identified known people (3) that was
operated by law enforcement (4) without a warrant,
probable cause or exigent circumstances. The ACLU really
should file.



Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:53:17 -0500
To: emmanuel Goldstein <emmanuel () 2600 COM>
From: e cummings <bernies () netaxs com>
Subject: facial recognition software used by authorities at super bowl
Cc: Lazlow <lazlow () lazlow com>

i've heard the secret service uses this in some crowd situations to spot people on their list. no doubt it will be used more frequently in the future, with cameras all over being networked to alert law-enforcement whenever anybody they're looking for happens to be within camera range...


From: terry.s () juno com
To: declan () well com
Cc: politech () politechbot com, trigaux () sptimes com, info () viisage com,
        wk () c4i org, rotenberg () epic org
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:52:11 -0500
Subject: Re: FC: Cameras at Super Bowl scanned faces looking for criminals
X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11

In doing some research for an electronic design project, it struck me
that the technology now exists in electronic smart cards (see
www.atmel.com and review 89SCxxxx and 90SCxxxx ASIC's, and RF interface
cards, or their European competitors) to implant a chip inside an almost
mandatory card, like a driver's license, or in a store shopping card,
such that the presence or passage of an individual through a portal could
be monitored without that individual realizing he was being tracked.
This would be similar to what's done with "pay at the pump" cards or toll
electronic speed passes, but could be hidden from view and tracked
without the card bearer realizing that his wallet could be inspected
without ever leaving his pocket.

How many and which states are complying with Federal "carrot and stick"
coercion to include Social inSecurity numbers on state driver's licenses,
but coding them in non-visible manners so as to not scare license holders
into thinking they're being tracked by arguably illegal use of such

We're not approaching 1984.  We're past it.



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