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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:18:33 -0400
To: declan_at_well.com, politech_at_politechbot.com
From: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg_at_epic.org>
Subject: Re: FC: Europe weighs recording all phone calls, Net traffic for
7 yrs
Declan -
It is worth noting the European privacy commissioners have
expressed strong opposition to similar proposals in the
past. Most recently the privacy commissioners expressed
opposition to the record retention requirements in the
COE Cyber-Crime convention.
Opinion 4/2001 on the Council of Europe's Draft
Convention on Cyber Crime
http://www.europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/en/media/dataprot/wpdocs/wp41en.htm
Marc Rotenberg.
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:43:27 -0500
From: "Matthew G. Saroff" <msaroff_at_pobox.com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U)
To: declan_at_well.com
Subject: Re: FC: Europe weighs recording all phone calls, Net traffic for 7 yrs
Declan McCullagh wrote:
> the FBI six years ago. It calls for the retention of "every phone call,
> every mobile phone call, every fax, every e-mail, every website's contents,
> all internet usage, from anywhere, by everyone, to be recorded, archived
> and be accessible for at least seven years," notes the journal.
I'm going to invest in Tape and Hard Drive manufacturers.
--
Matthew G. Saroff
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From: "Thomas Leavitt" <thomasleavitt_at_hotmail.com>
To: declan_at_well.com
Subject: Re: FC: Europe weighs recording all phone calls, Net traffic for 7 yrs
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:26:54 -0700
ROTFL... I almost fell out of my chair laughing...
Here's a quote from an article by PETER TIPPETT, M.D., Ph.D., the executive
publisher of Information Security and CTO of TruSecure Corp.
http://www.infosecuritymag.com/articles/may01/columns_executive_view.shtml
"A few years ago, I hosted a TruSecure ISP Backbone Security (ISPsec)
Consortium meeting, where we discussed a problem MCI and other ISPs were
having trying to fulfill an FBI wiretap request. The court order wanted MCI
to write to disk a week's worth of data from an OC3 Internet pipe for later
analysis. After many months of complex technical work, using the fastest
processors, tools and disk arrays obtainable, MCI was only able to sniff
the headers from the wire."
This was three years ago, so, clearly, on a practical basis, we have
nothing to worry about... however, of course, it is of course worrisome
that these people are so clueless, that totally clueless people are making
policy, and that the policy is so indifferent to the threat to personal
freedom and potential for abuse that an archive like this would create. The
consideration of items like this leaves things open for more potentially
abusive activities on a smaller scale.
Regards,
Thomas Leavitt
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