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Re: BSIMM-V Article in Application Development Times
From: Stephen de Vries <stephen () continuumsecurity net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:50:05 +0100


For anyone interested in this topic and working in appsec and/or dev, there’s a survey by the trusted software alliance 
which touches on some of these questions here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Developers_and_AppSec 




On Jan 7, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Christian Heinrich <christian.heinrich () cmlh id au> wrote:

Stephen,

On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Stephen de Vries
<stephen () continuumsecurity net> wrote:
Leaving the definition of agile aside for the moment, doesn’t the fact that the BSIMM measures
organisation wide activities but not individual dev teams mean that we could be drawing inaccurate
conclusions from the data?  E.g.  if an organisation says it is doing Arch reviews, code reviews and
sec testing, it doesn’t necessarily mean that every team is doing all of those activities, so it may give
the BSIMM reader a false impression of the use of those activities in the real world.

In addition to knowing which activities are practiced organisation wide, it would also be valuable to
know which activities work well on a per-team or per-project basis.

My reading of the "Roles" section of BSIMM-V.pdf is that the people
interviewed for the BSIMM sample are:
1. Executive Leadership (or CISO, VP of Risk, CSO, etc)
2. Everyone else within the Software Security Group (SSG)

What you are asking to be included is what is referred to as the
"Satellite" within BSIMM-V.pdf and I believe this may also require the
inclusion of http://cmmiinstitute.com/cmmi-solutions/cmmi-for-development/
too (why not :) ).

The issue with this is that it would invalidate the statistics from
the prior five BSIMM releases due to the inclusion of new questions
and in additional these new statistics were not gathered over time
either hence the improvements measured over time within BSIMM would be
invalid too due tot he new dataset.

Furthermore, Gary, Sammy and Brian have limited time to interview all
67 BSIMM participating firms.

However, I would be interested to know the "BSIMM Advisory Board" i.e.
http://bsimm.com/community/ view on this is and if it would be
possible to undertake this additional sampling within their own BSIMM
participating firm to determine if there is additional value would be
gained for BSIMM?  However, I suspect that an objective measurement
would be too hard to quantify due to internal politics of each BSIMM
participating firm but I could be wrong.



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