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Vulnerability Development: Re: FreeBSD listen()

Re: FreeBSD listen()

From: David Schwartz <davids_at_WEBMASTER.COM>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:33:05 -0800

        A protocol which is insecure should either be not implemented or
implemented with "self made" secure add-ons. There is no third alternative.
That RFC in ancient.

        DS

> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, CyberPsychotic wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> > for me just fine), I just got points that ftp daemon should do
> appropriate
> > things instead. :)) Quite humorous but looks like ftp developers would
> > claim that not their code, but kernel should take care of the
> solution to
> > the problem.. oh well, that is life :)
>
> It may not be as easy as it looks. If you just go for "ftp daemon should
> check source IP address of the data transfer", it would have the following
> consequences:
>
> - effectivly proxy ftp transfers are denied, since the source IP is not
> the one of the client but the one of the remote ftp server
> - you'd get problems when using ftp bouncers or ftp bounce networks
> (such as bnc4all http://bnc4all.ftp4all.de/, redirect4all or the
> rftpd bouncer)
> - it might confuse load balancing application layer gateways
> - RFC 959 doesn't mention source IP checking anywhere, therefore it
> would be a doubtable selfmade addon
>
> On the other hand random ports choosen by the server violate the RFC, too:
> "Every FTP implementation must support the use of the default data ports,
> and only the USER-PI can initiate a change to non-default ports."
>
>
> > -Fyodor
>
> ciao,
> scut / team teso
> [http://teso.scene.at/]
>
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>
Received on Nov 05 1999

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