Vulnerability Development: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market

[Dom De Vitto <dom () DEVITTO COM>]

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And even in the physical protection market, how much security does
a widget need? One fat guard? Ten Armed guards?

Securicor and Vale seems to be doing very nicely....

Dom
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 | -----Original Message-----
 | From: VULN-DEV List [mailto:VULN-DEV () securityfocus com]On Behalf Of
 | Grubin, Ben
 | Sent: 28 February 2001 19:31
 | To: VULN-DEV () securityfocus com
 | Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market
 | 
 | 
 | Actually, it will be true.  Eventually it will be a highly commoditized
 | business to "guard" network security.  Of course the people who design,
 | install, and maintain the security systems, especially high-security or
 | custom systems get paid significantly more than the guards.
 | 
 | Of course this commodity model depends on the maturity of an 
 | industry.  The
 | physical premises to guard don't change dramatically anymore.  
 | They may get
 | taller or wider or build from somewhat different materials, but 
 | all the same
 | principles still apply.  I believe in network security we are 
 | nowhere near
 | that maturity level yet, and the foundations on which we must base our
 | network security change daily--as often as the network.  Until 
 | that settles
 | down, we will remain an immature industry demanding highly skilled and
 | adaptive personnel.
 | 
 | --------------------------------------------------
 | Benjamin P. Grubin            bgrubin () guardent com
 | Guardent, Inc.             http://www.guardent.com
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 | "The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money.  It's
 | run by little ones and zeros, little bits of data.. it's all just
 | electrons."
 |  
 | 
 | > -----Original Message-----
 | > From: Ray W [mailto:rayw () RAYW ORG]
 | > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:30 AM
 | > To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM
 | > Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market
 | > 
 | > 
 | > Well,
 | > 
 | > If what @Stake writes is true, we should all be making about
 | > $10.00 an hour as Network Security Guards in the next few years.
 | > 
 | > That's a comforting thought.....
 | > 
 | > 
 | > 
 | > -----Original Message-----
 | > From: VULN-DEV List [mailto:VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On Behalf Of
 | > Filipe Custódio
 | > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:22 PM
 | > To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM
 | > Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market
 | > 
 | > 
 | > The fact that Forrester Research invested in the security 
 | > services company
 | > "@Stake" only goes to show that they really believe in what 
 | > they write: That
 | > e-security will naturally take the same logical steps that 
 | > physical security
 | > took, a long time ago.
 | > 
 | > I don't know of anyone who claims they can protect their business from
 | > burglars without the help of the Police or any private 
 | > security firm. If
 | > this makes sense in the physical security world, it should 
 | > also hold true in
 | > the networked world.
 | > 
 | > Just my EUR0,02
 | > 
 | > --
 | > Filipe Custódio
 | > Technical Architect
 | > e-Trust Unit
 | > Novabase
 | > 
 | > 
 | > Tony & Lisa Woody wrote:
 | > 
 | > > Read this.  http://www.l0pht.com/atstake.html
 | > >
 | > > -----Original Message-----
 | > > From: VULN-DEV List [mailto:VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On Behalf Of
 | > > Filipe Custódio
 | > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:51 AM
 | > > To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM
 | > > Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market
 | > >
 | > > Hello,
 | > >
 | > > Forrester Research has some very good reports on Security Services
 | > > Outsourcing. You can start by analysing the recent 
 | > "exSourced Security
 | > > Arrives"
 | > > 
 | > (http://www.forrester.com/ER/Research/Brief/Excerpt/0,1317,868
 | 9,00.html)
 | >
 | > Hope this helps,
 | >
 | > --
 | > Filipe Custódio
 | > Technical Architect
 | > e-Trust Unit
 | > Novabase
 | >
 | > Vivek Kashyap wrote:
 | >
 | > > Hi All,  Can some body help me out with some analysis on outsourcing
 | > > security specially Vulnerability and IDS solutions  to 
 | managed service
 | > > provider.Some thing which tells  abou' the Return on Investment
 | > > factors( ROI ) ....and the user benefits  and all relatd  things like
 | > > market scope ,various players inthis field...and solution and  cost
 | > > analysis...It would be great if some body can sendme soem report or
 | > > point me to some links  on Web...its urgent ..thanx in
 | > > adance                \\\///
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 | > > Vivek Kashyap
 | > > -------.oooO-----------------------
 | > >          (   )     Oooo.
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 | > >                   (_/
 | >
 | > Shop online without a credit card
 | > http://www.rocketcash.com
 | > RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
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