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Vulnerability Development mailing list archives

Re: Wlan @ bestbuy is cleartext?
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:05:19 -0500 (CDT)


bestbuy reads the firewalls list, I forget the name of their contact on
the list, perhaps this should be x-posted there for clarification.
Additionally, their corporate headquarters is in Minnesota, and one might
find an address on their wbsite or a phone number to direct concerns.

this is a BIG issue, and should be clarified.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne


On Wed, 1 May 2002, Blue Boar wrote:

I was asked to anonymously proxy this question to the list.  Here ya go.

                                              BB

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This past week I went to bestbuy to purchase a D-link wlan card... egar to
get my laptop up and running while in the car I put my card in and
installed the driver. I noticed the traffic light was lit up as if I had a
connection. Out of curriosity I fired up kismet and sure enough there were
packets flying through the air right infront of BestBuy. Well I decided to
run in an try to make a Credit Card purchase real quick to verify that my
info was not going all over the parking lot in the clear. Well after
sorting out my logs I noticed what looked to be like SQL queries and table
headers in my logs ... things such as CUSTOMER_ROUTEID, BANKNAME,
REGISTER_ID and things of that nature... luckily no where in that data did
I find my own credit card. Non the less I decided to run to the store next
to BestBuy while I left me PC on grabbing packets. Well yesterday I sorted
through the data collected and this time I did indeed find a RAW clear text
credit card number....not mine ... but definately a credit card number.

Heres my delima... I checked out a few of the other best buy stores for
"beacon packets" and everyone I drove by was sending them out...so I assume
all BestBuy's are wlan enabled. What I need to find out is ... are
BestBuys's Cash register terminals indeed using wlan and are they indeed
sending out MY data in the clear... I am NOT comfortable using my credit
card at ANY BestBuy as of right now...  due to legality though I don't feel
comfortable walking into the store and confronting someone about it.... for
all I know it could be standard BestBuy corp. practices to use nonsecure
wlan. I figured by starting a thread other people that have attempted this
may have more info or some from BestBuy may be reading the list and they
may pipe up.

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