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Security Policy (was Re: how to do intrusion detection right)
From: Bennett Todd <bet () rahul net>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:03:54 -0700
Here I'm not using "policy" in the usual computer security sense, of an unyielding set of rules; perhaps it's more an intent of what should and shouldn't be going on.
I've worked in one shop where the Data Security Department suffered from the delusion that a security policy can or should be an unyielding set of rules. That was maybe 8 years ago, all the major staff of that department are blessedly gone, and as far as I know the damage hasn't been undone yet; if any security work is accomplished in that firm it's not done by the Data Security department, as the people in that department gave it a reputation for being utterly useless, and mildly destructive if not ignored. I've since had some wonderful good fortune. I came to work at a shop that had intelligent and wise management, and then saw another example of the same at a truly superb ISP. In the _good_ places I've had a chance to see a Policy as a kind of a cache: decision-making is _hard_, so whenever you work through a meaty one, make a note of the circumstances that seemed to guide the decision and the conclusion you came to, and lean on precedent in future decision-making. When you view it that way it becomes obvious that a Policy is a living document. This has enormous value. The most tricky and delicate part of security administration is getting the users to support the policy. The first part of dealing with this comes as you're formulating the policy, but the ongoing work comes in selling it. Typically a user comes and says they want to do something, and they can't, please fix it. What they want to do (e.g. view a web page with applets) is prohibited by the policy. So you explain to them why the policy is as it is, what the cost to the organization would be of relaxing the policy. You try to find an alternative way to meet their needs. And you pitch your explanation of why they can't do what they asked in such a fashion that they know who they'll have to approach, and what argument they'll have to overcome, to get the policy changed to suit them. Do this right and the user community comes to really actively support the security policy; then you can start doing your job _right_. -Bennett
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