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Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India
From: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs () seastrom com>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:02:42 -0500
Anurag Bhatia <me () anuragbhatia com> writes:
Can someone share if there's huge difference in . root servers Vs gTLD servers? I understand that root only hold all TLD's - cc and gTLD delegation that would be few hundred TLDs delegation while gTLDs hold lot of domain names but if one country has root, what prevents having gTLD also? Certainly bit more hardware, storage and processing power but such facilities are available mostly say in India & South Africa which have significant number of big telcos.
There's a huge difference in operational complexity (and capex) between running root nameservers and gtld nameservers (to further confuse things, there are four gtlds, only two of which are run gtld-servers.net infrastructure, which means that Verisign is the operator). Root zone = a few thousand records with changes gated by people with a high degree of DNS clue, that come at a slow pace (once or twice a day typically). The roots eat a fair amount of bogus traffic (mitigated somewhat by things like the as112 project) due to poorly configured libraries and people's mistyping. It is trivial to run a shadow root locally by just secondarying "." on your cacheing nameservers. In fact, recent versions of FreeBSD have had a config like this to replace the named.root hints file - you just have to comment out the hints section and uncomment the secondary section in /etc/namedb/named.conf. You can do this on something as small as a wall-wart firewall device assuming it's running something like BIND. Obviously something that is exposed to the Internet as an anycast node will be built on much more capable hardware. A typical gtld zone will have anywhere from a few million to high tens of millions of records in it. Everyone and his brother has a vanity domain and together the update load and expectations of the customers are that changes will be committed instantaneously and visible across all nameservers for the gTLD within a few minutes at the outside. This update rate is a huge pain in operational practice and the sheer number of records eats a pretty decent sized memory footprint too. To answer your question, to get TLD anycast stacks in any given location, there will need to be a discussion with the TLD operator; in the case of the GTLDs that would be Verisign (.com and .net) and Afilias (.org and .info). In the case of sTLDs, GeoTLDs, and CCTLDs, the cast of actors expands considerably. No such thing a a one-stop shop. There is also an issue of cost/benefit. In the current economic climate assuming that organizations have unlimited resources to commit to the public good (regardles of how noble their intentions might be) is probably unwise. Does this help? -r (no longer an employee of a TLD op)
Current thread:
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India, (continued)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Eric Brunner-Williams (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Owen DeLong (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Doug Barton (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Rubens Kuhl (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India David Conrad (Mar 10)
- ccTLD operators do not "rule", was Re: Concern about ... Edward Lewis (Mar 11)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Suresh Ramasubramanian (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Frank Habicht (Mar 09)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Graham Beneke (Mar 09)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Anurag Bhatia (Mar 09)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Robert E. Seastrom (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Dobbins, Roland (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Graham Beneke (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India John Levine (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Eric Brunner-Williams (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India David Conrad (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India John R. Levine (Mar 10)
- Re: Concern about gTLD servers in India Eric Brunner-Williams (Mar 10)
- root zone stats Doug Barton (Mar 10)
- Re: root zone stats Anurag Bhatia (Mar 11)
- Re: [apnic-talk] root zone stats David Conrad (Mar 11)
