RE: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)

[Eric Wieling <EWieling () nyigc com>]

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Thomas [mailto:mike () mtcc com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 3:16 PM
To: Jay Ashworth
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)

On 03/21/2012 11:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Wieling"<EWieling () nyigc com> Verizon, the copper wireline 
> > company, is removing service from locations EVERY TIME VZ fiber is 
> > installed in a building. This prevents other companies from providing 
> > service by leasing Verizon's copper infrastructure. If there was 
> > copper at a location then VZ would be required to resell it and 
> > nobody would be locked out.
> TTBOMK, whether Verizon has copper to a building has *no bearing at 
> all* on whether a CLEC can place an order for wholesale service to 
> that location; VZN is *required* to provide that wholesale service, at 
> the regulated NRC and MRC rates, whether they currently happen to have 
> the physical facilities in place or not -- are you alleging either 
> that I've misunderstood that, or that VZN is refusing such orders 
> *simply* because they've removed facilities to an address where FiOS has done an install?
>
> Cause either of those ought to violate the rules.

So if Verizon is on the hook to support the CLEC's, why are they pulling the local loop? I'm sure it isn't free to pull 
it and certainly not to reinstall it, so what might be their motivation?

Mike
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They are required to reinstall copper in many cases.  The problem is that the FIOS is removed before the copper is 
reinstalled (as far as I can tell this is Policy), leading to several days, often a week or more, of downtime for the 
customer.  They count on the fact no customer in their right mind would consider a week of downtime acceptable.