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Re: Ipv6 help


From: Brian Johnson <brian.johnson () netgeek us>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:38:03 -0500

Over sub at around 20-40 to 1 is very easy now. With PBA, DET-NAT and other tools, the average customer largely doesn’t 
know it is happening and it solves for many provider side issues as well (logging being the biggest). For those 
customers who have issues, the over-sub ratios leave IPv4 space for those corner cases and/or native IPv6 should be 
made available.

And before anyone yells that this "breaks something,” It was already broken.

On Aug 25, 2020, at 11:46 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom com> wrote:



On 25/Aug/20 22:40, Brian Johnson wrote:

I usually solve this problem by designing for NAT444 and dual-stack. This solves both problems and allows for users 
to migrate as they are able/need to. If you try and force the change, you will loose users.

At some point, you run out of IPv4.

You could cascade to a high degree of NAT444, but then it gets hairy,
and costly, at some point.

Mark.


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