Re: BFD for routes learned trough Route-servers in IXPs

[Douglas Fischer <fischerdouglas () gmail com>]

Well...
My idea with the initial mail was:

a) Check if there is anything hindering the evolution of this draft to an
RFC.

b) Bet in try to make possible a thing that nowadays could be considered
impossible, like:
   "How to enable the BFD capability on a route-server with 2000 BGP
Sessions without crashing the box?"


And maybe:
c) How about suggesting a standard best practice dor ARP-Timeout for IXPs.
   And creating tools to measure the ARP-Timeout configurations of each
participant, and make this info available trough standard protocols.


Em qua., 16 de set. de 2020 às 18:14, Christopher Morrow <
morrowc.lists () gmail com> escreveu:

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:55 PM Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
> > > > > So, I was searching on how to solve that and I found a draft (8th
> release)
> > > > > with the intention to solve that...
> > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rs-bfd-08
> > > > >
> > > > > If understood correctly, the effective implementation of it will
> depend on
> > > > > new code on any BGP engine that will want to do that check.
> > > > > It is kind of frustrating... At least 10 years after the release of
> RFC
> > > > > until the refresh os every router involved in IXPs in the world.
> > > >
> > > > you have a better (== easier to implement and deploy) signaling path?
> > > >
> > > > the draft passed wglc in 1948.  it is awaiting two implementations, as
> > > > is the wont of the idr wg.
> > >
> > > I think you also mean to say: "this is actually still a DRAFT and not
> > > an RFC, so really no BGP implementor is beholden to this document,
> > > unless they have coin bearing customers who wish to see this feature
> > > implemented"
> >
> > if i had meant to say that, i probably would have.  no one on this
> > thread has called it anything other than a draft, so i am quite unsure
> > what your point is; and i will not put words in your mouth.
>
> I think the OP said:
> " At least 10 years after the release of RFC
> > > > > until the refresh os every router involved in IXPs in the world."
>
> it's not an rfc yet.
>
> > sadly, these years, vendors do not seem to care a lot about drafts,
> > rfcs, ...  anything which sells.
>
> sure :(


-- 
Douglas Fernando Fischer
Engº de Controle e Automação