Re: Foundstone - keeping free tools from the public

[Jac <jac_des_vert () yahoo com>]

Actually you may want to revisit the licensing. I
quote from the licensing you agree to from the
download site as related to downloading all of their
freeware tools.

Permitted use:

2.1 The Tools may be downloaded for personal and/or
commercial use.

2.2 You may not modify, reverse engineer, make
derivative works of, distribute, transmit or sell any
of the Tools without the express written consent of
Foundstone.

Of course there is more.

The tools are free from Foundstone. And whether people
like it or not it is thier intellectual properties.
And like you say, if your dumb enough to buy free
tools then that's your problem.

Unfortunately, as you point out, it does happen and
people and companies need to have the right to protect
thier intellectual properties.

Jac


--- Erik Parker <eparker () mindsec com> wrote:
> > Fascinating idea. Let's see, I give it away for
> free
> > but if some one else uses it and sells it, then
> I'm
> > being selfish if I don't want them doing it. I see
> no
> > similarities with M$ at all. Get the tools from
> > foundstone for free. If someone wants to sell
> > foundstones intellectual properties, then they
> should
> > be paying foundstone for it.
>
> I disagree with that..  We run OSVDB..  Our
> companies donate thier
> vulnerability databases to it.. And it's available
> for free to anyone.. They
> could "steal" (take) the entire database, and go try
> and sell it for a million
> dollars.. if they get a million for it, great.. 
> It's under a proper license,
> so they can't really STEAL it.. but the license
> plainly states you can do
> whatever you want with it.. sell it, use it,
> whatever..
>
> If someone is willing to pay $100 for something
> you're giving away for free..
> let them.. It's a win/win situation.. They were dumb
> enough to purchase it,
> and the company who was smart enough to resell it
> makes money..
>
> However, that's completely off topic to this
> thread.. I'm not saying I agree
> with NTO, if in fact, their new employee stole those
> secrets from Foundstone.
> I'm familiar with a nother situation like there,
> where an entire company was
> formed of previous employees from another company.. 
> stealing their ideas and
> trying to sell what they worked on at the past
> company. Scum bags.




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