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RE: Firewall recommendations?


From: "Tom Sevy" <tsevy () epx com>
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:13:25 -0500

Pix's Nat capabilities (or lack thereof) are a major PIA when you have
worked with the flexible NAT capabilities of CP. Major Major PIA...
-----Original Message-----
From: David Ellis [mailto:dellis () unicam com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:05 PM
To: 'Thorsten Dampf -- 7stein.net'; 'rdusek () myway com';
'security-basics () securityfocus com'
Subject: RE: Firewall recommendations?

Hi at my current job we use checkpoint, and I personally love that firewall
product. I am not a big fan of the pix and I have never played with the ISA
server cause it is a microsoft product and would not trust it. We are very
security conscious company. I think checkpoint has the best interface
around. But hey that's my personal opinion. The cisco pix is not a true
stateful packet inspection firewall. I have a classified pdf that talk about
the pix versus checkpoint in a situation with multiple exchange servers and
the ports you had to allow open for the pix to work in the environment that
was documented was totally unsafe.
At my next job, I would suggest going with checkpoint. Its not that
expensive when you start thinking about isa server cause You still need the
hardware, the windows server OS license and then the ISA license.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thorsten Dampf -- 7stein.net [mailto:thorsten.dampf () 7stein net]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:48 PM
To: rdusek () myway com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: AW: Firewall recommendations?

Take a look at the watchguard products. www.watchguard.com
Regards, Thorsten

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: rdusek () myway com [mailto:rdusek () myway com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. März 2003 21:05
An: security-basics () securityfocus com
Betreff: Firewall recommendations?




I am in charge of researching a firewall to replace what we currently

have. At my previous job I had used Microsoft ISA in a low-security

environment, and was happy with its features, and its
integration with

the Windows environment there. However, at my current job,
security is a

much greater concern, and I have to admit, I am somewhat
uneasy running a

Microsoft firewall product on top of a Microsoft OS. We also had

investigated Checkpoint as well as Cisco Pix, and found that for our

needs, the Pix at least seemed to need _many_ separate
components for the

same functionality. My question is what are your experiences
with using

ISA from a security standpoint? Usability issues? From the
Mac end? Or

would we be better off pursuing the Checkpoint or the Pix
solution? We

also plan on implementing VPN over whatever we choose, so if you

recommend something other than these, it should support at
least PPTP and

perhaps eventually IPSec/L2TP. We have also considered placing ISA

behind a Linux (or BSD) IP Chains firewall and our perimeter
network to

block some of the traffic from getting to ISA. Any comments
here? Thanks

to everybody in advance!


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