Re: Windows Server 2003 - Not secure from my test but OSX from Mac is secure from the start

[Randy Opper <ropper () firstsecurityonline com>]

The new G4 & G5 boxs that I am running are very secure. I have run over  
10 different scans from different sources and everyone shows that the  
system ports are stealth or not reporting. This machine has not had one  
change since I have installed the OS. In fact I have the apache web  
server running and the ftp server running and shield up at grc shows  
the box secure. I am impressed,  compared to my new 2003 server which  
is wide open even though I have not activated any services.


Randy

On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 08:32 PM, Rick Hale wrote:

> > If anyone knows of a system that is secure out of the box, let us  
> > know right
> > away. Otherwise we will continue assuming that it is an impossibility.
>
> i am going to rant.
>
> the whole notion of a system, secure out of the box, is make-believe.  
> to
> those who seek such a thing, i have this to say to you -
> you are wrong to assume it will either be black, or it will be white.
> are you failing to understand, you have to USE that system!?!?
>
> users, businesses, governments, educational institutions, whatever...
>
> all have different needs. it is foolish to assume Bill Gates, Linus
> Torvalds, Steve Jobs, <insert your sectarianly bigoted OS here>
> can say kazaam, and *poof* ship you a 100%, absolutely secure,
> unhackable system. if that were possible, there would be no need for IT
> professionals.
>
> i happen to agree with the previous poster's comment wrt openbsd; it is
> currently the most security minded, publically available, OS.
>
> -rik
>
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