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RE: Comcast Cable Setup Security Issue


From: "Andrew Aris" <andrew () dev bigfishinternet co uk>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:44:36 +0100

Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment here - tech-savvy users probably make
up a very small percentage of the calls that people like Verizon etc get so
it makes more sense to tailor the support to the majority. While I agree it
can be very frustrating when you have to go through all the basics with
someone who knows less than you do its just there is no other real way of
doing it - the cost of employing people with actual technical skills is just
too high to justify it when the majority of calls they get are probably
dumb-ass things that can be solved by a script can be followed. 

regards,

Andrew

PS: What really gets my goat is getting people who can't understand English
let alone speak it clearly. IMO that is a waste of everyone's time and
money.

-----Original Message-----
From: SMiller () unimin com [mailto:SMiller () unimin com] 
Sent: 21 July 2004 17:40
To: Seth Hall
Cc: 'Gandalf The White'; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Comcast Cable Setup Security Issue





The phone techs (even at level 1) need to be smart enough and 
knowledgeable enough to make a determination at least part of 
the time that the user is
computer literate and that script may not apply.   This business of
employing near minimum wage, virtually untrained (I'm *not* 
implying that this described you:) "techs" to inflexibly 
follow scripts is nuts, and IMO increases costs the support 
company as well as the customer.  Let me give you an example. 
 I once used Verizon (then still Bell-Atlantic) as my ISP 
(well, everyone is entitled to be stupid occasionally and I 
did learn better).  I had my home computer and my work 
computer set-up with dial-up access to 2 different POPs at 2 
different phone numbers (different area codes, even).  The OS 
at home was NT Workstation v4, and at work, Windows 95b.  
When I was at work, there was no one at home, and no computer 
was powered up.  If I couldn't access from home before 
leaving for work, and could not access from work either, the 
environment differences obviously eliminated a whole slew of 
trouble possibilities, most of which were near the beginning 
of the Verizon script.  How much time could have been saved 
at both ends by avoiding such stupidities as making certain 
the modem was powered up and plugged in?

-Scott





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