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From: GuidoZ <uberguidoz () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 22:53:14 -0700

PHP, Perl, and Python have all been discussed. Python is out of the
question because the company who did the ActiveX scripting for them is
the ones who are going to do whatever NEW scripting is done. They
don't do Python at all.

PHP and Perl are more of an option. I'd lean more towards Perl, as it
would likely port better from their current programming. It seems like
PHP would be basically a new coding session from scratch. (Or am I
mistaken?)

The reason they seemed somewhat hot for Java is because they also do
Java programming for other companies. While they have done Perl in the
past, they are strongest with ActiveX and Java. So, Java seemed like
the likely alternative to ActiveX... I just wanted to make sure I
wasn't forgetting something, as it might of not been the best. =)

Thanks for the suggestion - I'll remind them of it again and see what they say.

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Peace. ~G


On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:12:55 +0100, xyberpix <xyberpix () xyberpix com> wrote:
Hi GuidoZ,

I do stand corrected on this one, but what about PHP?
Maybe it's not possible, but it may be worth a look at least?

xyberpix

On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 07:39, GuidoZ wrote:
:) Java... dunno how much better that is than WSH, other than the fact
it's multi-platform, at least... :))) *duck*

Yeah, I'd recommend ducking... that could fuel some flames. =)

I'm open to other ideas too from anyone - the situation in a nutshell
is an orgranization I support needs to migrate away from IE. (The
users really can't handle the spyware and such, no matter how hard I
try to educate and prevent.) The only thing holding them back from
switching is a proprietary ActiveX application that they use to
interface with their data warehouse.

Changing companies isn't a possibility. I've complained at them before
for offering an IE only solution (there are a few Linux systems as
well which results to using WINE; though unstable). They've always
argued that it works... however with the recent onslaught on IE
vulnerabilities and complaints from OTHER netadmins, they are changing
their toon finally. They are currently working on a java interface
instead. The WSH option was also on their minds, although I pointed
out this limits to Windows again... and isn't that much better.

Thoughts? Java will at least be cross platform and cross browser,
which is really all I'm after. However, I'm sure it has it's
drawbacks, though I'm not a java programmer so I don't know what they
might be off-hand. Lookign for ideas from the group. =)

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Peace. ~G


On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:38:42 -0400, Glenn Sieb <ges () wingfoot org> wrote:
GuidoZ said the following on 10/7/2004 2:26 AM:

=D I think I already posted my replies, so I'll save doing it a 2nd
time. lol Thanks for bringing it here too.


:) I saw you doing it and figured I'd bring it back over too... :)

Followup on your WSH idea: They are looking into it. Actually, me
bringing up my dislike as ActiveX being the only thing holding back
from going IE-Free was just enough to have them look at it again. They
are looking into using java instead of ActiveX. (!!!! yay !!!!)


WSH isn't perfect, but it's at least less-evil than ActiveX.

Now all I'm doing is waiting to see what they come up with. The WSH
isn't completely dead, although they admitted that it would most
likely be written for IE too. The java applet they create instead
would be cross platform AND cross browser. Thanks for the push to get
on them again!! I think it might work this time.


:) Java... dunno how much better that is than WSH, other than the fact
it's multi-platform, at least... :))) *duck*

Best,
G.

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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
         ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759


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