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RE: Instant Messaging hash values
From: Keith Bucher <kbucher () halomede com>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:27:15 -0700
Robinson, Sonja typed:Nick Duda wrote:I think that this would be hard to maintain, why not simple block the type of traffice on firewall or proxy server.Hard to block at the firewall, they've adapted to random ports, so if you block 5190 it just moves. Even worse, many chat web sites are going right over port 80.Hm. What about protocol analysis, if not port-based analysis? Yiming Gong, in his article published on securityfocus.com and titled ``Identifying P2P users using traffic analysis''[0], explains both techniques in detail.
There are several progressive steps you can take to deny IM traffic at the network level: 1. Block IM ports (5190, etc.) at the firewall. This can be bypassed by using different ports (i.e. 80, 443) 2. Configure your DNS server to blackhole common IM servers (i.e. login.oscar.aol.com) by resolving them to 127.0.0.1 or another non-valid address. 3. Deploy a web proxy server (i.e. Squid or ISA) that denies access to IM services and only allow egress web traffic to the proxy server. 4. Deploy a deep inspection firewall like PacketShaper or IMLogic that will do protocol analysis ($$$). By this point the users will probably be fed up of trying to work around the restrictions and will start texting people from their cell phones. Keith Bucher
Current thread:
- Instant Messaging hash values Nick Duda (Aug 05)
- Re: Instant Messaging hash values Dave Aronson (Aug 08)
- Re: Instant Messaging hash values Netops (Aug 08)
- Re: Instant Messaging hash values Gaddis, Jeremy L. (Aug 10)
- Re: Instant Messaging hash values David Siles (Aug 15)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Instant Messaging hash values Nick Duda (Aug 10)
- RE: Instant Messaging hash values Robinson, Sonja (Aug 10)
- Re: Instant Messaging hash values Ayaz Ahmed Khan (Aug 10)
- RE: Instant Messaging hash values David Gillett (Aug 10)
- Re: Instant Messaging hash values NewYork User (Aug 12)
- RE: Instant Messaging hash values Keith Bucher (Aug 12)
