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RE: Hidden windows ports, files and services.


From: Alex Yan <drcyyan () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:19:46 -0800 (PST)

Paul,

I have Verizon DSL with a Linksys router (BEFS41 ?). I
didn't configure it right till last weekend. The
firewall and port blocking were not working properly
before. I did try the XP ftp server and SERV-U ftp.
But I already removed these components. Under IIS,
there are no services running now. As you suggested, I
can try remove IIS component.

Thanks
Alex

--- Paul Marsh <pmarsh () nmefdn org> wrote:

Alex:

      Are you running IIS on the system in question?  Are
you running
FTP along with IIS?  If you don't need them
add/remove programs,
add/remove Windows Components uncheck IIS and click
next, reboot and do
a netstat -bano and see what's listening now.  What
kind of a internet
connection do you have, broadband maybe?

Thanx, Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Yan [mailto:drcyyan () yahoo com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:17 AM
To: Paul Marsh; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Hidden windows ports, files and
services.

Hi Paul,

I did run TASKLIST before without "/SVC" The
processes are invisible to
this command.

Last night, I checked Recycler, system32, system,
etc, but didn't get
much.

I run TCPVIEW and got two set of interesting entries
with non-existent:

<non-existent>:348  local:ftp    LISTENING
<non-existent>:348  local:https  LISTENING
<non-existent>:348  local:6101   LISTENING

<non-existent>:1740  local:ftp    LISTENING
<non-existent>:1740  local:https  LISTENING
<non-existent>:1740  local:6101   LISTENING

These can be seen from "netstat" too. But I can't
kill these processes
using TCPVIEW. I tried to kill other regular
processes, it's OK.

Using "msconfig", I disabled sys.ini and win.ini,
stopped to load
startup programs and disabled all services loading
except those from
Microsoft for a clean boot. But these processes are
still there.

I also disabled some MS services like IIS,
Plug/Play.
Web Client, etc. No luck. After I disabled "DHCP",
processes are gone.
But after "DHCP" was disabled, almost all other
processes are gone too.

Next step, maybe I should do something on registry.

Thanks
Alex

 
--- Paul Marsh <pmarsh () nmefdn org> wrote:

 Alex:

    This is very interesting and hopefully you can do
a little more 
investigation before you nuke and rebuild.  You
did an netstat -bano 
and found two processes running listening on port
21.
Try a TASKLIST /SVC
at a command prompt to see if you can identify the
executable.  I'd do

a complete port scan on the system to see what
else is happening try 
NMAP http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ against your
system on all 65K 
ports TCP and UDP.  I'd also run Ethereal
http://www.ethereal.com/ on 
the system to see if anything is trying to call
home or if anything is

trying to get in.  I'm hoping with the list of
listening ports and 
capturing some traffic we can identify what's
cook'in.  Another good 
source of info can be found at


http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_an
d_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html

    Please keep us up to date as to what you find.

Thanx

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Yan [mailto:drcyyan () yahoo com]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:39 PM
To: H Carvey; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Hidden windows ports, files and
services.

Hi all,

Thanks a lot for your help.
On weekend I tried some suggested options, but
still didn't get much 
yet.

Scanned the system using the latest Norton AV and
Stinger in the safe 
mode. Nothing came out.

Run "netstat -baon". It gives process IDs and
program names for other 
processes. For the processes related to port 21,
it says "No ownership

information can be found".

Tried fport, cport, process explorer, etc, but no
luck.

"telnet 127.0.0.1 21" gives prompt "220 ." and
then times out in 15 
seconds. No telnet service was found in Windows
service list.

Tonight I will follow the Mark's suggestions step
by step and see if I

can get something. I will also try other options.
If anything came 
out, I will let you know.

I am a software developer, more on Unix, not so
familiar with Windows 
registry and all kinds of services and processes
on XP. If I can not 
find the problem and fix it, I have to reformat
the system. But even 
after reformating, there is still a chance that
the system could not 
be totally clean, because I have to restore some
critical data from 
the backup.

Thanks again.
Alex




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