RE: ntds.dit, john and pwdump2

["Dave Dyer" <ddyer () enspherics com>]

Hey Soylent, thanks for the tip on Cain.  Nice tool.  However, for future
information, it wants a hashed txt file to crack as well.  It's looking like
the only way to do this is to run pwdump2 on a syskey'd volume and export it
to a file that you can then crack using l0pht, john or cain.

Thanks for all the help.
dd 

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From: the.soylent [mailto:the.soylent () gmail com] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:22 AM
To: ddyer () ciber com
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Subject: Re: ntds.dit, john and pwdump2

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hi!
have you tried cain?

in the online-manuel (http://www.oxid.it/ca25um/) theres the talk of a
cracker and a converter

here`s the link -> http://www.oxid.it/cain.html

cheers, soylent



Dave Dyer schrieb:

| Hello List,
|
| I am cracking a password file for a client, and have a copy of the
NTDS.DIT
| file from a domain controller (win2k/Active Directory). We do not have 
| access to L0phtcrack currently, and I'm on a deadline. I was going to 
| use John the Ripper with some plugins written by 3rd parties to crack 
| the password file, but apparently the NTDS.DIT file isn't really a 
| hashed file that John can read
|
| After some research, I found that you can use PWDUMP2 to actually
export the
| user/pw information on the DC to a hashed file that you can then crack
with
| John (even if syskey is used after SP2). However, in order for PWDUMP 
| to work, you have to run it as an administrator from the DC itself, 
| where it injects its own .dll into the lsass.exe process, which I no 
| longer have access to. My question is this:
|
| Does anyone know if there is a way to extract the user/pw information 
| from the NTDS.DIT file (rather than from lsass.exe on the server) into 
| a hashed file that I can then crack with John?
|
| If not, does anyone have any other suggestions on what I can do with 
| this NTDS.DIT file to crack it?
|
| Thanks in Advance,
|
| dave
|
| ***********
|
| Dave Dyer
|
| <mailto:ddyer () enspherics com <mailto:ddyer () enspherics com> >
|
| "So you'll bring experts in to water the company's plants but you'll
do the
| security thing yourself?"
|
| -QinetiQ in the Financial Times
|
|
|


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