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Re: SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware?
From: Kelly Martin <kel () securityfocus com>
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:47:55 -0700
Matvei Kliuchnikov wrote:
You should really do a bit more reading before making such a definitive statement. Only a portion of spyware is installed this way. Most of the time the inclusion of spyware along with a legitimate application is clearly indicated in the user agreement, but these click-through agreements are rarely read and thus, the users gets a little more than he is expecting.From the article: "because it's holes in Microsoft's operating system that built the entire spyware industry to begin with" That's just plain wrong. Spyware, by it's nature, is installed along with other applications that the user manually installs. Download KaZaa, for example, and you'll find that several other "spyware" apps are installed along with it. This has nothing to do with security vulnerabilites.
A huge amount of spyware gets installed in an entirely different way, however, and has everything to do with vulnerabilities and/or unpatched machines. I'm referring to bits of code that are installed without a user's permission, just by visiting a website -- via security problems with ActiveX, Javascript, JAVA, and unpatched vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer. There are many, many examples of this. Have you never seen a .DLL downloaded while visiting a website using IE? What about the users that you support? It's pretty hard to surf the web nowadays using IE without getting some kind of spyware.
Things to watch for: - has your browser's homepage been hijacked? - do you see any unwanted toolbars in IE? - do you see unwanted pop-up windows when you start IE?- are you unable to reach Google.com or Yahoo.com, and get redirected to another search engine instead? - is there a trojan or keylogger reporting statistics about you back to another location
- [the list goes on, and on...]
I can recommend that you read up on CoolWebSearch as an excellent example of nasty spyware that is *not* user-installed, and does in fact attempt to exploit vulnerabilities. There are many others.Obviously, Microsoft has a shoddy record of security problems, but don't confuse the issue and continue spreading FUD.
Regards, Kelly Martin
Current thread:
- SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware? Kelly Martin (Jan 07)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware? Matvei Kliuchnikov (Jan 07)
- Re: SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware? Kelly Martin (Jan 07)
- Re: SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware? Edward J. Weinberg (Jan 10)
- Message not available
- Fwd: SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware? Caeser Augustus (Jan 10)
- (WAS: Re: Fwd: SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware?) Sebastian (Jan 10)
- Re: Fwd: SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware? Christos Triantafyllidis (Jan 10)
- Re: SF new column announcement: Microsoft Anti-Spyware? Kelly Martin (Jan 07)
